Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

[Romanator21]

Is there anything other part of the plane you would like me to compare this to?

[peterwoods@supanet.com]

Suggest a good book on perspective and paralax would be a good place to start.

[Romanator21]

Suggest a good book on perspective and paralax would be a good place to start.

I hope you've read one yourself.

[Romanator21]

I can do this all day...

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

I can do this all day...

With respect, you have some crazy ideas with regards to taking scale references. Your lines mean absolutely nothing.

[Romanator21]

And just in case you missed this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj7nEL1ekzM

Tiny head? 1/2 as small as it should be? What anatomy course did you take?

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

And just in case you missed this one:

Tiny head? 1/2 as small as it should be? What anatomy course did you take?

That's a Spitfire by the way. Our references regard the Hurricane.

There is no doubt that the pilot figure is perfectly proportioned. That doesn't mean his head can't be too small in comparison to specific items on a Hurricane.

Imagine I took a full body picture of you in order to create a pilot figure. But once we create the model there's a problem....you're over 6ft and we want to create a smaller pilot that will cause fewer clipping problems when moving in the cockpit. Now instead of shortening your legs a bit and maybe squeezing your shoulders in a touch (leaving your head the same size) say we choose to shrink the entire model by 15%....

Hey, we still have a perfectly proportioned pilot model BUT everything including the head is now 15% smaller than it was. Now, when the head is compared to a Hurricane canopy panel it appears smaller than it should be because the head IS 15% smaller than the average adult head (assuming your head is normal that is).

Hope that makes sense!

I'm not saying this is what happened but it's a possibility.
We still need a clear unobstructed side-on shot without helmet to be sure though.

[Romanator21]

Oleg said that this was not the case and that the pilot figures are exactly 175 cm. That's close to 5'9''. There were NO reductions in scale.

You will notice I posted a pic of a spitfire, and the video of a spitfire. I shifted gears, but I'm still comparing apples to apples and pears to pears.

@ winny - I have, thanks. BTW, you should not have clipped the top of the SOW head by 3 inches while not doing the same for our other pilot.

This is a little more appropriate:

[ATAG_Bliss]

woohoo!

Keeps looking better and better

I wonder how much they are sandbagging us

Keep up the great work Oleg and Team!

Cheers!

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

Is there anything other part of the plane you would like me to compare this to?

I think we won't know for sure until we see a clear side-on view where the pilot's head isn't obscured with the fur collar. For me, as long as the head is at least as big as the panels in the sliding canopy then we're OK. Here's a couple of ground crew shots where heads are close enough to the canopy for accurate comparison.

The last picture I include is a nice side shot from an earlier update and to me the helmeted head looks pretty darn good. As mentioned before, I'm sure seat position does play a factor in wartime shots where the head is up against the top of the canopy.

Poor Oleg and Luthier, we must drive them to drink. I do know Oleg will have the last laugh when the final product is delivered though. He's got stuff in store that will blow us away..I'm sure of it.