Friday 2010-08-20 Dev. update and Discussions

[Insuber]

Drafting,

Bravo for the job, but your edits look cartoonish and unrealistic, especially the first one. I suggest to take a look at guncams such as the famous one here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53LGJhjYICM

you'll see explosions and smoke like this one, quite different from yours (and Olegs ...):



Cheers,
Insuber

Originally Posted by drafting

I think the fire and smoke effects look great, and I don't mean to be that guy (the complaining guy), but it looks like the dark, thick smoke effects are coded to turn on at full strength (like a light switch) at the moment...

Maybe they'd look a little better if there was a transition to the full smoke effect from something like a puffy explosion or a gradual opacity increase?

I've added the original shot at the top along with two photoshopped effects to show what I mean:



...again, sorry to nit-pick and all that. Maybe though, since BoB is still in production, this might be a useful post?

[FG28_Kodiak]

+1
it should look realistic not in 'Hollywood Style'

[FS~Hawks]

Um it's W.I.P. still so there is still fine tuning to do so please don't expect the pic's in this thread to be finished product.

[Xilon_x]

that immagine american gun shot is american thunderbolt in ITALY yes the base is in SARDEGNA and take of from SARDEGNA to BORDER COAST OF ITALY.

[Jumo211]

Very nice update
Thank you

about smokes , spending many hours , days , weeks over the past many years going through WWII archival footage inluding Luce after watching it for so long you will get the same conclusion , smoking plane like in the screenshot is rather rare to see out of all shot down planes in archival footage some of them pretty badly damaged including B-17's .
Ratio is more like 1 plane may get such smoke out of every 30 that were shot down as the rest will show light colors smokes , gray , whitish very and I mean very transparent smokes and many of them on fire have little visible or not at all smoke coming out of the plane .
I understand that much less smokes looks less dramatic but that's just the fact .
Tons of WWII air combat archival footage is availbale , youtube is not exactly the place to reach conclusion about shot down aircrafts .
Period .
It's WIP but it is reminding me IL-2 where you can have 10 , 20 or 30 aircrafts in the air all smoking like a factory chimneys all over the skies .
To prevent that from happening damage smokes would have to be coded with a lot of randomness and black thick huge smoke being rather rare .

[tourmaline]

Happy birth day Oleg and very nice wip screens!

By the way, i have seen real ww2 footage on discovery channel with the same fire and smoke effects as shown in the screenshots!
Especially when shot down with flak, they burn like that! Also japanese planes were more prone to catch fire then german planes probably...

Loads of american footage of zero's catching fire just like the screenshots!

[Jumo211]

A lot of footage ? , they play on history channel and discovery channel the same thing all over again L.O.L.
Good luck with that .

[BadAim]

Hey Insuber where did you get that shot of the Klingon Battle Cruiser being attacked? That's pretty cool

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by Jumo211

A lot of footage ? , they play on history channel and discovery channel the same thing all over again L.O.L.
Good luck with that .

Maybe at your end, lol.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Jumo211

Very nice update
Thank you

about smokes , spending many hours , days , weeks over the past many years going through WWII archival footage inluding Luce after watching it for so long you will get the same conclusion , smoking plane like in the screenshot is rather rare to see out of all shot down planes in archival footage some of them pretty badly damaged including B-17's .
Ratio is more like 1 plane may get such smoke out of every 30 that were shot down as the rest will show light colors smokes , gray , whitish very and I mean very transparent smokes and many of them on fire have little visible or not at all smoke coming out of the plane .
I understand that much less smokes looks less dramatic but that's just the fact .
Tons of WWII air combat archival footage is availbale , youtube is not exactly the place to reach conclusion about shot down aircrafts .
Period .
It's WIP but it is reminding me IL-2 where you can have 10 , 20 or 30 aircrafts in the air all smoking like a factory chimneys all over the skies .
To prevent that from happening damage smokes would have to be coded with a lot of randomness and black thick huge smoke being rather rare .

+1