min specs for SOW

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by icuucme37

Has any min specs been released yet for SOW ? ..... want to know if I will be middle of the road on specs or top-end........

no official announcement has ever been made so far about specific pc specs for BoB-SoW. but what is safe to presume is that, whatever high end gaming pc you might have AT RELEASE TIME will then allow you to run BoB on the higher settings with more eye candy and decent frame rates

if you search this forum you will find more in depth reasons why that should be the case

for your current new pc specs, you have a high end cpu, a fair amount of ram, so all you would need is a high end gfx card to go with it. that is of course presuming you will play on a medium level resolution with a single monitor. high end resolutions like those on a 30', or wanting to use multiple monitors, will need multiple high end gfx cards presumably.

all this of course is just deduced by applying common sense and additionally knowing something about oleg's previous release strategy in the original il2 series. if you want more certainty, then wait till release BoB time or for a formal spec announcement before you spend your money. by all current indications BoB should be released later this year, so it wont be far off. if a delay occurs, then obviously pc specs continue to evolve and oleg will tailor his product for the high end technology being available at that time.

Originally Posted by zapatista

no official announcement has ever been made so far about specific pc specs for BoB-SoW. but what is safe to presume is that, whatever high end gaming pc you might have AT RELEASE TIME will then allow you to run BoB on the higher settings with more eye candy and decent frame rates
if you search this forum you will find more in depth reasons why that should be the case

for your current new pc specs, you have a high end cpu, a fair amount of ram, so all you would need is a high end gfx card to go with it. that is of course presuming you will play on a medium level resolution with a single monitor. high end resolutions like those on a 30', or wanting to use multiple monitors, will need multiple high end gfx cards presumably.

all this of course is just deduced by applying common sense and additionally knowing something about oleg's previous release strategy in the original il2 series. if you want more certainty, then wait till release BoB time or for a formal spec announcement before you spend your money. by all current indications BoB should be released later this year, so it wont be far off. if a delay occurs, then obviously pc specs continue to evolve and oleg will tailor his product for the high end technology being available at that time.

1. Why is it 'Safe' to presume that you will be able to run SOW on higher settings with this spec PC, you are completely guessing, at this moment in time we have seen no high res video with multiple aircraft flying over a city. Its impossible for you to make that statement. Of course you could be right, but you simply dont know.

2. There have been no indications that SOW will be released this year, in fact if you use your 'common sense' you would most certainly feel that all indications show that it will 'not' be released this year, christ its not even in 'beta'.

Take a re-look at this list that Furbs compiled of the things we haven't seen, and im sure you will agree a release this year is most unlikely.

Sqd take off and landings from a working airfield.
Aircraft sound.
Finished landscape seen in full detail and at high res with AA, AF.
Rivers.
Bad weather, overcast sky, night time.
How radar will work.
Working GUI.
SOW website.
System specs.
Any aircraft crashes showing physics model.
Sound of coms between pilots or ground control.
Anything showing how the single player will work.
Anything showing how MP will work.
finished coastlines.
Anything being bombed...or bomb damaged buildings...craters.
Bombsights...and how level bombing in formation will work.
Anything showing how being injured will be shown and how it will affect pilots.
Ground straffing.
Anything showing how the good the AI is.
More than 10 planes in the sky at one time.
Finished clouds.
anything in DX10???...but def nothing in DX11.
Explosions.
Cities(london).

3. Stop being a smart arse.

[furbs]

i cant see how Tree's post could have been seen to be "monotone whining "...just looks to be "common sense" to me...as you can see by my list, we have a long way to go.

the best way to go i would say is start saving now...wait till SOW goes gold and buy the best system you can get.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by furbs

..as you can see by my list, we have a long way to go.

what private personal list do you think is a failsafe measure to judge the progress of a sim you have only had small glimpses at over the last years ? i am not trying to be facetious there, but i have the exact opposite perspective to your personal opinion

iirc it is at the start of this year oleg indicated the sub-components of the sim were largely finished (dynamic campaign engine, scenery, weather, damage models, plane models, AI behavior, flight physics modeling etc..), and he at that point was in the progress of integrating them (a very different way of working to other programmers, largely skipping the alpha stage). have a look back at foobar's website to get an overview of the WiP updates we have had since then, focusing on just weekly shots might make you loose perspective of the amount of work that has already been completed.

oleg also stated that many parts of the sim you (we) wont get to see until right before release time so his competitors need more time to respond to his quantum leap and dont get a leg up on him to quickly. there have also been repeated statements by oleg he has to release this year for financial reasons and is aiming for the BoB anniversary date as a target. even if there are some minor glitches and postponements from that, it still leaves more then 3 months for him to release it in the boom pre xmass sales period. oleg also stated he personally is already working on the next project for after BoB, so his crew can continue working and dont need to be laid off, plus he is relaxed enough to go on hollidays, doesnt sound like a man who is panicking to me.

do we know for SURE it will be released later this yr, nope, but then nothing in life is sure. statistically speaking in the UK nearly 20 people every year die while getting out of bed, another 70 or so will die because they slip down the stairs on their way to get breakfast, etc.. does that mean you personally will succeed in surviving long enough tomorrow morning to eat your cornflakes, let alone make it all the way to work alive ? none of us can predict that for you with 100% certainty, but on the balance of all probabilities you will. and that is about how well we can judge the release of BoB this year, we know the work that has been done, we know roughly the stage it is at, and we know the pressures oleg's team is under to release it, so right now odds are we WILL have it before xmass.

..... but we still haven't seen any of those things on Furbs list, and Oleg stated recently no work has been done on bridges yet, you have to use a little common sense here, this is not whining or complaining it is purely an observation.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

and Oleg stated recently no work has been done on bridges yet, you have to use a little common sense here, this is not whining or complaining it is purely an observation.

wow geez thats really a show stopper aint it !!

lets see, there is probably roughly 100 to 150 bridges needed for major roads on the southern english part of the BoB map. if they are to be placed manually by hand (3 clicks of the mouse ?) i would say a single person can probably place almost 100 of those on a map in a single day

lol so 3 or 4 days work for a single person to do the whole BoB map

anything else that is keeping you awake at night worrying about ?

Well historically speaking Oleg has said on more than one occasion that he 'wants and needs' to release SOW in, 2007, 2008 and 2009, so Im guessing that 2010 'could' go the same way as the previous years, but again hopefully i am wrong. As for the bridges you maybe right, a couple of days work, but it does somewhat defeat your argument that everything else is done and finished.

If SOW is released this year i will eat your grubby shorts, if it isn't will you eat mine?

[furbs]

From what ive seen in regular updates over the last 12 months, the progress rate from what we started with to what we are seeing now or NOT seeing, seems to me to say that Oleg and his team would be very hard pushed to get a release this year without dropping alot of features.

again this is just my thoughts...i really hope we get to see SOW in 2010 as im sure it will be ground breaking and set a new standard for flight sims.

[hellbomber]

if doubt that a 5870 and an i7 at 4.0 will max sow then you must be dreaming, i havent found a single game yet that i couldn't get at least 80fps on a 1920 x1200 all maxed with ample aa and af to boot, i can also run most latest releases at max res and with 2x aa on a 6000 x 1200 eyefinity set up, doesnt really matter what the specs are if u got a 5870 and i7 920 your good to go, who cares if u cant max every last fing detail.. bottom line is the game will run like butter with high settings

and even if it didnt theres not a hell of alot more you can do. maybey pop in 2 5870's or a 5970, but alot of games crossfire doesnt really do a whole lot, sometimes it doesnt help at all, and you wont find much more powerful than i7 unless you want to spend $1200 on a 980x which is insane, so bottom line is that system is about as good as it gets.. you could wait for an ATI 6000 series supposedly wil be here in december, if u havent upgraded yet i would wait for that GPU will give you the most bang for the buck

[furbs]

Hellbomber...i hope your right but i think SOW is going to be a whole new ball game