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Old 07-31-2010, 12:32 PM
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Sad, about the swastiska thing, I wouldn't have imagined that the "PC brigade" would also be able to operate within Russia. But just curious, who obliged the Douma to pass this law, the same lobbies like in the Western world or specific Russian interests ?
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Old 07-31-2010, 03:42 PM
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As the Russians head down their fairly new path of freedom and democracy, I would have hoped that they would have learned from our mistakes here in the US. Apparently the PC brigade is in full swing there too where people believe that learning real history is somehow harmful. I had more faith in the Russians given their tradition of learning the lessons history teaches.

+1 on the option to set individual aim points for the guns. Pilots had differing preferences on how they liked their guns set up. I remember distinctly a former P-51 pilot saying he liked to have all of his rounds from every gun pass through a single point (he said the size of a quarter lol) at a certain distance for maximum hitting power. Other pilots wanted a spread, especially in heavily armed craft like the P-47 where the outside guns were set to converge further out than the inboard guns (or vice versa).

One of the advantages often talked about in the P-38 was that all guns were centered in front of the pilot with no need for interrupters and such.

Any hint on where the sim stands as far as being on schedule for a 2010 release?

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Sad, about the swastiska thing, I wouldn't have imagined that the "PC brigade" would also be able to operate within Russia. But just curious, who obliged the Douma to pass this law, the same lobbies like in the Western world or specific Russian interests ?
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:26 PM
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There is a very real reason for the prohibition of Nazi symbolism in Russia, being that Russia contains more than half of the worlds Neo-Nazi's (estimated at around 90,000).
These knuckle dragging Gorrilas ironically do not seem to comprehend that Russia suffered terribly fighting against Fascism, and that Hitler considered most Slavs to be 'Untermenschen' and sub-human (lol.....what a f*cking dick). I'd love to know what (if anything) goes through these peoples heads. Hate crimes against those from the Southern Caucausus, Tajiks, blacks and anyone who is not ethnically Russian, as well as anti-Semitism are on the increase. It is a very real problem.....not just in Russia but elsewhere too.

I would agree that in the context of a computer game this is quite ludicrous, historical veracity never turned anyone into a Nazi, unless they were f*cked in the head already.

1c are being very wise in playing it safe IMO, it would be foolish to jeopardise development over this frankly inconsequential point. It is of course a simple matter for skin makers to overcome this 'problem'.....end of story really.

Glad to see that things are progressing Ilya, some of the criticisms have merit but its WIP, you guys are probably tearing your hair out over some of the OTT BS comments. Constructive criticism is of course a good (and necessary) thing, but some folk take things a bit too far IMO.

Carry on, it will be out when its out and keep up the good work. Don't let the b*stards get you down.

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Old 08-01-2010, 06:18 AM
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There is a very real reason for the prohibition of Nazi symbolism in Russia, being that Russia contains more than half of the worlds Neo-Nazi's (estimated at around 90,000).
These knuckle dragging Gorrilas ironically do not seem to comprehend that Russia suffered terribly fighting against Fascism, and that Hitler considered most Slavs to be 'Untermenschen' and sub-human (lol.....what a f*cking dick). I'd love to know what (if anything) goes through these peoples heads. Hate crimes against those from the Southern Caucausus, Tajiks, blacks and anyone who is not ethnically Russian, as well as anti-Semitism are on the increase. It is a very real problem.....not just in Russia but elsewhere too.

I would agree that in the context of a computer game this is quite ludicrous, historical veracity never turned anyone into a Nazi, unless they were f*cked in the head already.

1c are being very wise in playing it safe IMO, it would be foolish to jeopardise development over this frankly inconsequential point. It is of course a simple matter for skin makers to overcome this 'problem'.....end of story really.

Glad to see that things are progressing Ilya, some of the criticisms have merit but its WIP, you guys are probably tearing your hair out over some of the OTT BS comments. Constructive criticism is of course a good (and necessary) thing, but some folk take things a bit too far IMO.

Carry on, it will be out when its out and keep up the good work. Don't let the b*stards get you down.
Good post- I believe the most moronic thing i have ever seen is pictures of neo-Nazis in Israel!!!!!
I agree- play it safe, get the game together, ignore the clowns- it's looking good and the scale of this game seems incredible.
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Old 08-01-2010, 07:15 AM
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Here's what a real Hurricane looks like. The SOW Hurri is not too far from this...
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:49 AM
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Here's what a real Hurricane looks like. The SOW Hurri is not too far from this...
Actually, this is allmost what a real Hurricane Mk.I looks like, the propeller spinner is the wrong shape. It is R4118, while most of the plane was rebuilt using the original bits, the constant speed propeller had to be rebuilt from scratch. It seems to be based on the longer spinner from a Mk.II Hurricane, but made pointed to resemble a de Haviland spinner. There are no flying Hurricane or Sea Hurricane Mk.I today that has the correct spinner.

The correct shape of the de Haviland spinner can be seen is this photo:

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