109 etc. Riat 2010

[swiss]

still a butt ugly airplane

[Xilon_x]

loock this simbol.
this simbol call FASCIO is illegal?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

loock this simbol.
this simbol call FASCIO is illegal?

It's illegal? Where? In Italy?

Do you now the history of the symbol?

It actually a Roman sign, called lat. "fasces" which means "bundle".

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by swiss

It's illegal? Where? In Italy?

Do you now the history of the symbol?

It actually a Roman sign, called lat. "fasces" which means "bundle".

Famously the symbol of the facists. The idea apparently being that by binding together some feeble twigs, you can make a handle that will work for an axe.

It is pretty much the italian equivalent of the swastica, arguably more extreme/unambiguous, but outside italy it it's mostly not understood, so it passes with little comment. Especially since Fascist Italy didn't actually participate in the holocaust in quite the numbers that Nazi Germany did.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

Famously the symbol of the facists. The idea apparently being that by binding together some feeble twigs, you can make a handle that will work for an axe.

It's a Roman sign of authority, nothing more nothing less.
Thank god mussolini didn't come up with the idea to use a red star...

It is pretty much the italian equivalent of the swastica, arguably more extreme/unambiguous, but outside italy it it's mostly not understood, so it passes with little comment. Especially since Fascist Italy didn't actually participate in the holocaust in quite the numbers that Nazi Germany did.

Yes I am aware of that, I can read wiki myself, thx.
In Switzerland it's the crest of a canton:



NAZI SWITZERLAND!

btw: is it possible you're a little fascistoid? Or are you just German?

[julian265]

Originally Posted by swiss

It's a Roman sign of authority, nothing more nothing less.

I'm not sure I understand your meaning behind "nothing more nothing less"*,
however the swastika was also in use before you-know-who used it.

*Do you mean that it was a pre-existing symbol and so doesn't need to be avoided? Or that it wasn't an analogy with an axe?

[Igo kyu]

The fasces may have originally been an ancient roman symbol, but when the Fascists chose it as their name, they pretty much took it over.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by julian265

I'm not sure I understand your meaning behind "nothing more nothing less"*,
however the swastika was also in use before you-know-who used it.

*Do you mean that it was a pre-existing symbol and so doesn't need to be avoided?

Bingo.

You can't just run away from history. If some ppl abuse it - well, the will use it anyway.
Banning whatever is wrong in general, it's a sign of capitulation of a society.

[LukeFF]

A swastika debate that goes bad - gee, who would've guessed that would happen?

[Xilon_x]

loock this video is really SVASTICA is free not illegal but legal WHY?
this 109 fly in modern time whit embleme of svastica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXJ2n...eature=related

yes SVASTICA is free embleme no WAR no HOLOCAUST no NAZZIST is only demonstration of storic event is only SHOW not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLyr...eature=related

VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM uaoooooooo this is real sound of airplane zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzvvvvrrrooooooooooommmmmmmmmmm. FANTASTIC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=strKB...eature=related