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Old 07-19-2010, 11:24 AM
N3MES1S N3MES1S is offline
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Brontors are the most hard to kill creatures of the game, specially if u attack em with range units. I remember time ago i needed almost 30 minutes to kill an enemy with a 300 brontors stack. That was just horrible.

Shammans are dangerous units, its the first stack i use to attack before attacking anyone else. Depending on wat units do you have (shammans will attack first cyclops, beholders and something else) u need to kill em fast or not.

¿Black Dragons hard to kill with mage?? dont think so.. they are easy to kill, with mage, warrior or paladin. Dragons are not a real threat. Only if u have thorns or something fire vulnerable in your army.... ^^

cyclops are only dangerous on hard and impossible game modes, when u find a 50 cyclops stack, that is a really tough match, even harder than a 50 black dragon stack. U can put traps for dragons, or u can attack dragons with physical damaging creatures, but cyclops, attacking from distance and with that high universal defense are more hard to kill than dragons.

Bears are not a "no retaliation" units, weidox, u must be talking about some other units. Royal Snakes are no retaliation units, or assasins.

Assasins are easy to kill, u can use a lot of strategies, trap (i used to use the trap "method" xD) , or just dont move and wait till they make their special backstab move (just summon some unit or damage em till they have low stack). Or just move any poison resistant unit if u have no choice.

Pirates, Swordman, Sea Dogs and all the units that can avoide attacks are the most annoying units in the game. They can avoid more than 2 consecutive attacks lol. Thats maybe the only thing that should be fixed (its stupid when u launch 3 attacks on a sea dogs stack and they avoid the 3 attacks... wtf.. ?).

And yes, red dragons are far more dangerous than black dragons. Even if they die faster.

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Old 07-19-2010, 01:39 PM
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lol dragons easier to kill than cyclopses?

rofl

i rather have a stack fo 50 cyclopses than a stack fo 50 dragons

cyclopses can only hit 1 stack

while a dragon can hit multiple stacks and give them the burning effect
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:09 PM
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yup, on high stacks dragons are easier to kill than cyclops. Its a fact.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:22 PM
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yup, on high stacks dragons are easier to kill than cyclops. Its a fact.
i rather fights cyclopses they are alot easier to bug
than dragons
they are a pain in the ass

just place a summon near the cyclops and it will never hurt your real units
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:06 AM
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...yea i think cyclopses are little bit easier to kill than dragons. cyclopses do very little damage from ranged attacks. I tend to take out other archers before them even if thier numbers are large. Thier true power is seen in close quarter combat with use of thier skills. Sure they have incredible resistance but thier damage is pathetic for a level 5 unit. You can have 14 cyclopses attack a dragon and it wont kill them but how about 14 black dragons? I cant beleive this is even an arguement.

Cyclopses can be a really big pain in the ass at times but they also have no magic resistance which allows for you to take them out really easially with spells that cause magic damage. a couple of magic axes and thier entire squad is destroyed. Of course black dragons can be killed with death star but that is also a huge tax on mana and you would only be able to use the spell once per turn as opposed to magic axe.

I dont really think green or red dragons are that much of a threat due to geyser which can absolutely destroy thier stack but when we talk about black dragons, they are a nightmare for mages. You can cast trap if you know where they are going to go but after the first round, it becomes difficult to predict. Thier regular attack is devastating to all units save for archdemons, red dragons, and of course black dragons but if they manage to nail you with thier flying fire breath, your getting heavy losses. Keep in mind they also have a high chance of burning which significantly lower your defense and cause damage over time.

Dont get me wrong, cyclopses are a real bitch to kill in large numbers, but they just dont compare in any way to black dragons
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:12 PM
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black dragons can be easily ripped with
armageddon
or death star
^^

just use 2 big stacks of repair droids
and gg no re for the dragons;D
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:55 PM
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black dragons can be easily ripped with
armageddon
or death star
death star and armageddon destroy any unit though. Like i said, both of those spells require a shit load of mana and you can only use that spell once per turn to damage black dragons.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:54 PM
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it all depends on which strategy you use. If you use green dragons with invisibility, the only danger to you are units with really high initiative. Archdemons and furious goblins in particular can really be a pain in the ass when paired with a hero. When you fight the orc heroes on elon, and furious goblins have an initiative of 10, they are the first ones needed to be wiped out, yet there are multiple stacks consisting of thousands each. Needless to say, if they hit you once, you are losing several units. Cyclopses are really easy to kill if you use inivisibility, and in most cases, so are dragons. Thorns can suck to kill like this. All units are beatable with relative ease if you use the right strategy. With thorns, you use dragons (black and red). When fighting assasins, cyclopses, dragons, and such, you use a high initiative unit and invisibility. When fighting elenhel, the mage on elon, or the lizard heroe in montero, you use black dragons to avoid all the spell damage. Finally, when fighting bosses, you use paladins with phantom+ stone skin+ frenzy. When i fought k'tahuu, my paladins ended up with an attack around 250 or so when the fight was finished.

The one thing i noticed is towards the end of the game, you should only be using a single stack of units that have a high speed to run away while dealing damage of time spells like fire arrow, poisen skull, and ball of lightning.
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