credit problem,crash problem

[Gilly]

Easy solution is rather than falling out of the sky and crashing, press start and then bailout, 99% of the time it will credit the kill. Just a pity the bailout option isn't easier to locate. This also then reflects what would actually happen in real life as I don't know many fighter pilots who would try and stay with a messed up plane.

[vdomini]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Easy solution is rather than falling out of the sky and crashing, press start and then bailout, 99% of the time it will credit the kill. Just a pity the bailout option isn't easier to locate. This also then reflects what would actually happen in real life as I don't know many fighter pilots who would try and stay with a messed up plane.

QUOTE!!!!

At the beginning i was trying to land my damaged plane for fun... because i've been told that under a certain altitude the parachute won't work ( 300 meter maybe? can't remember... ) but i've been told that if i crash with my landing gear down it always scores me like a crash and not being killed by someone. So now i prefer bailing out then trying to land!

I don't mind scores, i prefer having fun, i've discovered that he most challenging and entertainer games i've had i was not the winner

have a nice day

[olife]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Easy solution is rather than falling out of the sky and crashing, press start and then bailout, 99% of the time it will credit the kill. Just a pity the bailout option isn't easier to locate. This also then reflects what would actually happen in real life as I don't know many fighter pilots who would try and stay with a messed up plane.

agree with u,i think it is the best thing to do
thanks for the tip,not think about it before

[JOED70]

Wow olfie:

I must say thank you for bringing this up . Yes the game is flawed due to fact crashes most often result in no kill for who ever blasted your plane .
Glad to see that others are bothered by this as well . Bailing as Gilly pointed out solves this problem 99% of time rarely will a bail deny some one thier kill credit but it has happened to me twice . I agree bailing should be more simple . Avaitor lay out takes 2 buttons Select and Start then another scroll and press to bail. If only thier was some penelty for crashing like 45 sec time spent befor respawn . Or some incentive for players to bail gameplay would be much better. The fact that someone has told you that by lowing gear you can cause a crash rather then kill . Indicates just how bad a lot of players game play is . Were stealing some ones kill seems to be the the bigest part of there game plan . I hate when I crash and it dose not give credit to the guy who blasts me . But I'm one of these people who feels bad if there is some one in a round who has no kills or points . I often times will try and make my self an easy target for these people . I look at it this way we want to encourage people to play online not drive them away out of frustration .

[bobbysocks]

it bothers me too, in both ways. someone will riddle me up to where i can not keep it in the air no matter what i do. it nose into the dig but no kill for them...they got robbed plain and simple...and i tell them that. xbox doesnt have the bail for credit option or i would be more than glad to. and it works the other way...i finally get on someone's tail and chomp it hard..they lose control and auger in...no credit for me. so i guess it sort of averages out..but when you get killed more than not...those few victories are precious.

[JOED70]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

it bothers me too, in both ways. someone will riddle me up to where i can not keep it in the air no matter what i do. it nose into the dig but no kill for them...they got robbed plain and simple...and i tell them that. xbox doesnt have the bail for credit option or i would be more than glad to. and it works the other way...i finally get on someone's tail and chomp it hard..they lose control and auger in...no credit for me. so i guess it sort of averages out..but when you get killed more than not...those few victories are precious.

I agree 100% bobby. except that it's the fact a lot of players will never bail ever. And that is one from a historicaly accurate simulation that this game is and, all the attention to detail the artists created in this its a shame that some incentive to bail was not factored in . Bailing out was the only chance at survival Aircrew are worth more the aircraft from an economic front as well the fact human will to surive would kick in . Perhaps a crash should allways result in a kill or a penality to the player who crashes . But a wounded plane that manges to escape and land would be rewared some how. If I could make one change to the game that would be it for me .

Great point on comunication if you do auger in and the guy gets riped cause that happens easy down low I have had a blast form somes cannons flip me into the ground that slams me into ground many times , or forces me to overcontrol aircraft more then enough with out a chance to bail. And I try and make a point of telling the guy he killed me . Heck I'll tell people often to save there bullets if im going to pop the chute but I wonder how reliable the coms are some times as I think a lot of it gets garbled or droped for some folks .

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

it bothers me too, in both ways. someone will riddle me up to where i can not keep it in the air no matter what i do. it nose into the dig but no kill for them...they got robbed plain and simple...and i tell them that. xbox doesnt have the bail for credit option or i would be more than glad to. and it works the other way...i finally get on someone's tail and chomp it hard..they lose control and auger in...no credit for me. so i guess it sort of averages out..but when you get killed more than not...those few victories are precious.

I've actually now found you CAN ,every time, give people the kill by bailing out on xbox too. You just have to be VERY quick. As soon as you get a black damaged part on your plane, bail out within 2 or 3 seconds and you can give them the kill, any slower and you will crash though. That's basically what the patch did for PS3, it increased that time limit to a much larger one.

Now, I will keep flying only with a black engine. If I get black anything else I get out.

[JOED70]

Bravo Zulu Guys
hopefully this will catch on for more and more players it really improves game play in my opinion.

[bobbysocks]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

I've actually now found you CAN ,every time, give people the kill by bailing out on xbox too. You just have to be VERY quick. As soon as you get a black damaged part on your plane, bail out within 2 or 3 seconds and you can give them the kill, any slower and you will crash though. That's basically what the patch did for PS3, it increased that time limit to a much larger one.

Now, I will keep flying only with a black engine. If I get black anything else I get out.

thanks RP..i will try that.

[Lost Apiarist]

Unfortunately Bobby it only works in the patched PS3 version.