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Old 04-07-2010, 10:28 AM
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Hi team daidalos! First of all: thanks a lot for the great 4.09 patch you've delivered. I can't wait for 4.10.

One request: could you remove the "sonar" please? The ability to hear nearby planes + other sounds is completely unrealistic, it makes bouncing people very difficult, when in RL most guys being shot down never saw let alone heard the bandit behind them. It's been requested before, and maybe it's a relatively easy fix. Erich Hartmann scored 352 kills, most of them from 50-100m distance, and noone ever heard him

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Old 04-07-2010, 11:44 AM
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Hi guy's!

i'm here to ask you for a new map!
don't worry, i think that it will be very easy to create!
I like too much Pacific battles!

Coral Sea was the most equal battle fought in this war!
same number of ships, planes and crews ability.

In il2 there is not a good map (except only coral sea only water ).
now i see that you had create the slot map, that is very nera to coral sea!

this is what happened:


so, i think that will be easy to create!
only sea on south! north east taked from the slot!
only port moeresby must be create!

what dou you think about?
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:35 PM
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Do you have any idea how long it took to do The Slot map? Moreover do you understand how large the map you are proposing would be?

This is 9 months to a year's work for a true high quality map.
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Old 04-07-2010, 04:56 PM
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Map making has it's issues.

Facts are most people doing a game like IL2 aren't interested to fly for an hour (in real time) to a battle engagement location. Most users always bump up the speed between waypoints now.

Mission Builders will tell you that players want to engage in combat at most within 15 minutes, and prefer less time.

Staying true to maps is almost... not necessary. IL2 are not like a MSFT or XPlane flight simulation. Flight simulation is altogether different. Navigating from location to location and flying charts is a big part of the flight simulation experience.

Map builders don't take away from the experience for air combat type players with smaller maps. Look at Online maps as a good example.

Staying true to real world dimensions should not be a factor for IL2 and air combat games. There should be enough distance on maps for an immersive feel, but beyond that real distances shouldn't be a factor.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:01 PM
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I have flown some very long missions online on the Slot map in the H8K Emily. Because of the threat of interception we flew a very long, out of the way mission profile to bomb Henderson Field. Navigated using compass headings and stopwatch, as there was nothing but water, 7000 meters below us.

It was very satisfying to do, but I would not want a steady diet of it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:43 PM
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Unfortunatly i've not idea about time needed to create a map!
So, THinking postive i say....they had create the slot, surely there are no problems creating coral sea!
But i'm the first to say...."if it need too many time, it have nosense" and nine months are very very much.

i hope that some day, some crazy guys will create this suicidal long range map!


AFter my strange request, i want say tank oyu to all Daidalos tema that is putting some new linfa into il2 game
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:55 PM
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Map making has it's issues.

Facts are most people doing a game like IL2 aren't interested to fly for an hour (in real time) to a battle engagement location. Most users always bump up the speed between waypoints now.

Mission Builders will tell you that players want to engage in combat at most within 15 minutes, and prefer less time.

Staying true to maps is almost... not necessary. IL2 are not like a MSFT or XPlane flight simulation. Flight simulation is altogether different. Navigating from location to location and flying charts is a big part of the flight simulation experience.

Map builders don't take away from the experience for air combat type players with smaller maps. Look at Online maps as a good example.

Staying true to real world dimensions should not be a factor for IL2 and air combat games. There should be enough distance on maps for an immersive feel, but beyond that real distances shouldn't be a factor.
It's true that very long flights are very boring... But it's always fun to have a long hard dogfight! Until you've run out off ammo
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:28 PM
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It's true that very long flights are very boring... But it's always fun to have a long hard dogfight! Until you've run out off ammo
I know that i'm founding something different from great number of players, may be!

me and my team (and other teams flying with us) try to fly great (and if possible long) missions where 64 (or 128 player if possible) take off at same time, with same target!
For those are needed big maps, where you can use a bit o tactic!
but i know that it is not renumative work a lot of months only for few players!
and actually the large part of players in il2 are playng dogfight or maximun 1h missions!
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Old 04-10-2010, 02:26 PM
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I know that i'm founding something different from great number of players, may be!

me and my team (and other teams flying with us) try to fly great (and if possible long) missions where 64 (or 128 player if possible) take off at same time, with same target!
For those are needed big maps, where you can use a bit o tactic!
but i know that it is not renumative work a lot of months only for few players!
and actually the large part of players in il2 are playng dogfight or maximun 1h missions!
Off course not all long missions are boring. Some long missions can be interesting to, like some missions with many planes and the same target, which you said.

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