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Old 03-19-2010, 04:11 PM
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Hi Oleg, very nice models!

The camo on the BoB CR42s is quite controversial. Several variants of the same, basic scheme appear in the documents.

The colours look fine and correct, if you're still using the RLMs that I sent you.

Personally, I would go for a more common pattern on the default CR42 skin. For sure, the contour of the mottling should be more blurred, as I suggested for the BR20.

Moreover, there are few details of the fuselage of the model that may be improved.

Feel free to contact me via email, if you need some help.

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Old 03-20-2010, 04:00 PM
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Moreover, there are few details of the fuselage of the model that may be improved.

Feel free to contact me via email, if you need some help.

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This is the place to mention your comments Abraxa.
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Old 03-20-2010, 05:35 PM
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Oleg, here's some printed examples of what I was talking about regarding the 'shadow compensating scheme' on biplanes:

First example is from CAMOUFLAGE AND MARKINGS No.2: The Battle for Britain - RAF May to December 1940 ISBN 0-9539040-0-8



Note that this version also takes into account the shadows on the fin and lower fuselage, something never compensated for on monoplanes, and wasn't as popular as just changing the colours on the lower wing.

Next is from BRITAIN ALONE June 1940 to December 1941 ISBN 1-904643-06-X



Again, lower wing finished in lighter versions of the top surface camo colours.


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I find it very unlikely that any colors would accomplish much between upward facing clear sky and surface facing, even less that it would make the upper and lower meld together. The sky is REAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLY bright, and the whole upper hemisphere illuminates the upper surfaces. It only helps a little bit. Works better with camuflage painted on faces..
It is important to note that the Temperate Land scheme used by the RAF from the Munich Crisis until after the BoB was not intended to help the aircraft blend in while in flight - it was purely a defensive paint scheme to make aircraft less visible while parked around the airfields during refuelling, etc. It wasn't until 1941 and the adoption of the grey/green Day Fighter scheme that the camo was meant to make aircraft less visible during flying operations.

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Old 03-21-2010, 12:47 PM
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This is the place to mention your comments Abraxa.
Hi Freycinet.
I already gave some help for the camo of the Br 20 and the exchange went fully via email, after collecting the info with the help of few qualified friends.
Quicker and easier. I'm sure I'm not the only one who worked that way.

Comments, suggestions, exchanges of documents, picts and screenshots on specific details would be slow, boring and essentially unfit for a forum.

It's up to Oleg anyway. However he decides is fine for me.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:02 PM
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I was wondering if Luftwaffe fighters will have a greater choice of colours for their numbers? Blue, black, red, yellow, et.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:50 PM
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There were only 4 colors used!
The colors changed during the war but there were always only 4
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