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Old 03-16-2010, 06:00 AM
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Why not? If a pilot made a decision to bail while no crucial flight systems were damaged... for example instruments and oxygen, then correctly trimmed the aircraft would have no problems flying on until the fuel tanks were empty or another mechanical failure occured.

There's a fairly recent story of an aircraft that flew with their dead passengers and pilot due to hypoxia, for hundreds of miles before running out of fuel and crashing.

Maybe the moment of bail out should be considered a kill. or PK.
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Old 03-16-2010, 01:15 PM
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Why not? If a pilot made a decision to bail while no crucial flight systems were damaged... for example instruments and oxygen, then correctly trimmed the aircraft would have no problems flying on until the fuel tanks were empty or another mechanical failure occured.

There's a fairly recent story of an aircraft that flew with their dead passengers and pilot due to hypoxia, for hundreds of miles before running out of fuel and crashing.

Maybe the moment of bail out should be considered a kill. or PK.
Autopilot on or off?

Even if perfectly trimmed, I doubt there are many WWII aircraft that would remain that stable after the pilot had bailed - this will alter the balance. Unless someone can produce evidence for unmanned, non-autopilot WWII combat aircraft flying on for any length of time, I'll assume it is a bug. I certainly can't trim most aircraft to show the stability needed in IL-2, even without allowing for the destabilising factors a bailout would cause.

Another factor to consider is that the safest way to bail from most single-engined fighters was to roll inverted first. In any case, why the heck would anyone bail from an aircraft with only instrument or oxygen system damage? If the plane is sufficiently undamaged to remain flying unmanned, why not stick with it? (actually, the oxygen failure case is probably one where bailing would be a dubious decision - if you open the chute high you risk hypoxia, and if you don't you may pass out on the way down...)
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:37 PM
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This has probably been brought up before but can we get left and right wheel brakes mapped to the rudder pedals, i.e diff. braking.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:48 PM
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Dear DT,

Some months ago I asked about the possibility to review the Breda Safat 12.7 issue. Even if they weren't very powerful, they look really too weak in this game, alterating in the end the balance with contemporary fighters, and stealing most of the fun of flying certain planes.

We have now some new interesting experimental data by TinyTim, showing that the Il2 Breda SAFAT are some 75% weaker than the well known Anthony Williams' table calculations. The effectiveness of BS and UBS are respectively 36 and 97 in those tables, and 7 to 33 in Il2 according to TinyTim's findings. It's 1/3 instead of 1/5.

TT found experimentally that in Il2 you need an average of 79 bullets to kill a plane with a BS, vs 28 bullets for the UBS and 39 for the M2. I think that this says it all.


Other machineguns are affected as well by this issue. Herebelow the link to the UBI forum discussion.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...9271044048/p/2

I know that you have too much to do in too little time, but a good look at the weaponry of this game would be wortwhile IMHO . Maybe starting from uf_josse work... .

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