Hidden Cache locations

[superd]

Originally Posted by Killer

Hehe, the same here, nice Wyvern in hangar, but no pilot to fly it Now I am in XB-19, killed tons of pirates (thanks god for all those pulse laser turrets from previous caches ) But I recommend to fly there. I still have the Mastiff (with Kali shiled, Thungsten repair and systems firmware Mk.3), one pilot in Tiger, one in Jaguar and one in Panther. It is doable. With a bit of luck. I've just cleared the sector before going to sleep, today I plan to try to find the cache. But even if I do not find it, the loot itself will give a nice cash flow
I just wonder, people here are telling, they got Wyverns Mk.II from loot. I have never got one nor saw one. Do you play on hard to get them?

I play normal and got Wyvern. As I mentioned, it is pure luck. I got same loots for the first two caches as Vistarnh. But then I did not get anything in pegasys, but got Mk II in Charon. I even bought one Mk II for 300g plus in a system. So I have two now but no one to fly them. I will go to XB 19 to earn a lot of XP

[Uniq]

In X-45 there is a Triada warehouse. There are 8 big cargo containers and 2 transports, I have just been able to kill hte transports and they drop some nice systems and 3rd
gen fighters and some weird cargo. The big ones pack quite a punch and the tirada doesnt send much but they do alot of dmg so my ships are down in no time sadly.
Manage to kill all of them and triada ships drops some nice things too as they are quite good, butcher and officers, got a shining for example. Then I was going to destory the cargo containers but I don't know if it's because I attacked another one of the 8 but another wave spawned and then I died, so you can possibly farm exp here against damn good enemies. Or 1 wave spawn for each cargocontainers. Really curious whats inside those things.

What happens if you piss them off? WIll it impact the story or wont I be able to travel through systems owned by them and not getting attacked all the time by them?

1 wavefor each container it is I think. Just got one big and it dropped some 3rd gen fighters and weapons, and there is 8 of them! Got 4 shinings heavy weapon for my fighters and then I have 7 cargo containers left and a shitload of high rank triadas left to kill. Sadly I lost all my fighters in the initial clash so I will have to save this for later.

[flashy]

if u upset a faction there just red to u, unless u go through a major system u wont meet anything more than patrols some of the major systems have butchers in, being red to msf and going through fort (forget the second name) stright down the middle ive died every time top notch fighters and 2 or 3 butchers so ive always had to skirt round that system when im red to msf

[Goblin Wizard]

I don't know if anyone mentioned that but you can get some good stuff very early in the game (right after you got Mastiff). When you flight to Elio for repainting you go through the Hephaestus (you had to navigate between automatic turrets). There are 3 rings of these turrets and lots of wrecks around. Blowing wrecks outside the rings is pointless but inside there are two big (flat type) transport hulls that drops nice stuff. 1st gave me: Emerald, Armageddon, Sigil, Avenger, and Trident fighter. 2nd: Shining, Lycathrope, Mortar, Overbank, Berserk Laser and Hrimithurs (sth like that) fighter. After several tries I realized that types of armament are fixed and only quantity of items changes (I can get up to 8 items from one wreck) so you can get 600-1000K worth stuff depending of your luck (fighter are always one, others may be multiple).

EDIT: To get inside you have to flight down and go under the turrets. You can start from the top too but wrecks are at the bottom so going down is faster. Beware the turrets. Mastiff goes down in 3-4 shots from a single turret. The system is totally peaceful (maybe except gates area) so that's easy money .

[vistarnh]

Originally Posted by Goblin Wizard

I don't know if anyone mentioned that but you can get some good stuff very early in the game (right after you got Mastiff). When you flight to Elio for repainting you go through the Hephaestus (you had to navigate between automatic turrets). There are 3 rings of these turrets and lots of wrecks around. Blowing wrecks outside the rings is pointless but inside there are two big (flat type) transport hulls that drops nice stuff. 1st gave me: Emerald, Armageddon, Sigil, Avenger, and Trident fighter. 2nd: Shining, Lycathrope, Mortar, Overbank, Berserk Laser and Hrimithurs (sth like that) fighter. After several tries I realized that types of armament are fixed and only quantity of items changes (I can get up to 8 items from one wreck) so you can get 600-1000K worth stuff depending of your luck (fighter are always one, others may be multiple).

EDIT: To get inside you have to flight down and go under the turrets. You can start from the top too but wrecks are at the bottom so going down is faster. Beware the turrets. Mastiff goes down in 3-4 shots from a single turret. The system is totally peaceful (maybe except gates area) so that's easy money .

I never found anything there but I'll add it to the list

[Killer]

I have just found the XB-19 cache. And I can confirm that reloading does help. First time only one Wyvern, after a reload one Mk.I and one Mk.II Wyvern. Yippee

[Goblin Wizard]

A little hint/cheat about drops.

If you want to check max possible drop for a cache you can look at Star Wolves...\Data\AI\AI.ini file. There is a section:

[Module extraction]
...
;PercentToExclude = 60;80
PercentToExclude = 0;0

;PercentToExcludeInventory = 40;25;40
PercentToExcludeInventory = 0;0;0

PercentToExclude - chance of destroying armament in the explosion
PercentToExcludeInventory - chance of destroying cargo in the explosion
If you set all values to 0 (as showed above) you will always get everything that ship/cache had (don't need several reloads ). Escape pods don't follow these rules.
I don't know why there are 2 or 3 values (probably for different difficulty levels).

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I've been searching through the script files for a while and I think I found some interesting systems that may contain hidden cashes. The problem is I'm very early in the storyline so I don't have ships tough enough to get there. I need a good save with strong setup. Could anyone PM me?

[valky]

Hmm you're right. (just made a quick search).
According your AI.ini info every destruction determines the amount of the cache's quantity (so every quickload lets you re-destroy it again and again ^^)

But, I did a further research into the files , and their are these system-init scripts, which determines the loot table. So I think, as soon as you jump into a system the script is called and at this very moment the loot table for each roid is created. And any quick load destruction only affects the amount of loot but not the quality at all !
The script for each location 'd be activate.script and the location where the asteroid is location.script in each "...\Star Wolves 3 - Civil War\Data\Scripts\Locations\.." - if you can figure out the 3D coords...but maybe this isn't hard, as I already found some caches. Ah compared to my current location *eg* unusually they used XZY instead of XYZ.

Just some plain example for location XT23, 'Light Trade Station'
using the navmap as coords with the very center of the map as (0,0,0) !!
xyz_trade_station = Vector3(400, 20, -150); <- would be the loc in the location.script
400 = 4 fields from the center
20 = the height of the object
-150 = 1.5 fields down from the axis

About my theory with the cache's quality ( in case of Solncevka, I tried maybe ~15 times and always got the Gunslinger !)
The activate.script calls a condition which determines the quality at the very end of the file: "if aster_nychka_1~=NIL then....end;" think of it as, as long as the roid is in the system do this sh*t
It also calls a function 'NychRareShipsList' (NychRareShipsList ={"Trident_pl0","Hrimturs_pl0","Gunslinger_pl0","W yvern_pl0","Wyvern_mk2_pl0","Dragon_pl0"}; from FloodTradeStations.script)
which is always the same for all the locations and there is NO check for the game's difficult level! So I came up with the idea that these roid's "inventory" is created as soon as you jump in and NOT while re-load&destroy! (or maybe even at game's start? but this I should someone verify)

Finally
Figuring out the location where a possibility is to contain a ship 'd be the very locations: [measured from the axis' of the map]

Fort Russ: Garbage Patrol Station (9 fields right/1.7 up) checked

Hephaestus(~aka Gefest in the file): this one is a bit tricky to figure out, there are 2 conditions maybe bound to some quest, but each condition spawns either 2 cache. Seems like the ones 'Goblin Wizard' was talking about. Only problem the location is generated and at least 2 spawns are somewhere within the turrets. If I'm not wrong one condition is bound to the quest where you have to go thru the field, and only at this point there will be a spawn of 2 ship wrecks ...somewhere (can be wrong so it's either the quest where you have to get into the minefield to get rid of the patrol or on your way back to the system; trigger condition 1)
The other condition is if you are not on this mission and in this sector, but it's where I get headache. I don't know if they spawn while the quest is done (cond 1) or if they only spawn before you did the quest.
Either way there should be at least 2 caches.

Charon: already listed / but I didn't find it (-8.4 fields to the left/-7.5 down/slightly under Z-axis)

Pegasus: already mentioned; there should be up to 6 (?) caches (up to 5 are random and seems to be somewhat bound to the mission / 1 'd be always in Pegasus), 'll check for myself later again

Solncevka/Tarrot/Vaudille/X220/XB-19/Fronn: already listed

XT-41: Some destroyed station (6.9 fields right/ -3.9 down) checked

Edit:
'll check my theory @XT-41 ... only 2 jumps afar

If I'm not mistaken and you always want a specific ship, just edit activate.script from the location mentioned above and change the line:

AddShipToInventory(NychRareShipsList[RAND(_amt-1)+1],1);

to

AddShipToInventory(NychRareShipsList[shipnumber_x,1); where shipnumber_x is digit 1-6 and defines the position in the list {"Trident_pl0","Hrimturs_pl0","Gunslinger_pl0","Wy vern_pl0","Wyvern_mk2_pl0","Dragon_pl0"} / their pseudo code is only to get rid of the digit 0 - RAND(_amt-1) generates a number between 0 and 5 (_amt is 6 as there are 6 ships) and +1 to have a valid digit of 1....6

[vahadar]

Originally Posted by vistarnh

I never found anything there but I'll add it to the list

Still in Hephaistos there is also an Asteroid labelled "Asteroid fragment" in the center of that same ring that you can smash, it will give you the following : fusil, lycanthrope, gunsliger (tier4), mortar, shield prototype (pretty nice at this stage of the game), m-115 yataghan.
I found it trying to find the second wreck that drop the trident, but it seem i dont have that second wreck in my game :s seem i havent triggered the quest yet for that wreck