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Old 03-06-2010, 07:27 PM
nearmiss nearmiss is offline
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I really don't understand all this discussion about swastika

There are several IL2 utilities that place swastika on aircraft now. I'm sure with SOW similar utilities will be created.

Oleg will not put swastika on aircraft, at least that is my understanding from Il2. He would have none of it.
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Old 03-06-2010, 08:42 PM
ECV56_Lancelot ECV56_Lancelot is offline
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Its sad how a nice friday update became a pointless discussion about what the developer should be showing and swastikas.

Please, if you want the game come with swastikas, or talk about if it should have them, or not, or the german and any other country law, why don't you guys start another threat about the subject and leave this for talking about the update.
Same about if you are not happy about what its being shown.

Please, let those that are interestend on the update, enjoy and ask about it.

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Old 03-06-2010, 09:01 PM
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Its sad how a nice friday update became a pointless discussion about what the developer should be showing and swastikas.

Please, if you want the game come with swastikas, or talk about it about if it should have them, or not, or the german and any other country law, why don't you guys start another threat about the subject and leave this for talking about the update.
Same about if you are not happy about what its being shown.

Please, let those that are interestend on the update, enjoy and ask about it.

S!
Amen!
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:49 PM
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Amen!
Amen +1!

Back on topic: To me it seems like the antennas are not only moving due to inertia (the wobling) but also bending due to windforces as the vehicle is turning with a constant speed! How much attention to detail is that? Finetuning windforces and bendingstrenght of antennas?
Oleg has (IIRC) stated that planes will be affected by the slipstream of other planes flying in front of it, I guess these effects comes from the same programming feature.
We are also getting working suspension for vehicles!
These are fantastic features, bringing much life and immersion to the game, but they must be enormously time consuming. I can not understand how MG is capable of putting so much stuff into this game before it is released.

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Old 03-06-2010, 11:46 PM
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Oleg, those aerials are ok, but you still didn't reach the level of excellence shown in the movie Airplane!...



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Old 03-07-2010, 01:26 AM
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As others have said, I think this swastika issue is a moot point. As long as it can be enabled post-release, I'll be satisfied. Don't get me wrong though. I'm all for historical accuracy and think banning the use of the swastika (especially in a historical context such as what SoW is depicting) is absurd, but I blame the politicians, not Oleg. I think his hands are tied. If in some weird alternate reality the roles had been reversed and Russia was an Axis member and Germany was Allied, we'd probably be seeing this debate with the "hammer and sickle". The USSR was just as criminal, if not more so, than Nazi Germany, but that doesn't seem to matter. The victors write the history, as they say. Anyway, it is a moot point regardless of how we feel about it.

Similarly, I would like to see SoW have realistic violence too, but because the politicians of some countries seem to feel the need to take it amongst themselves play nanny to their constituents, this is yet another realism factor that has to go by the wayside resulting in a whitewash of what was harsh reality for airmen back then...
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:10 AM
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So that settles the Swastika on Heinkel-issue. They can't add it, so they leave it empty, so the community can add it - if they want. Mystery explained.

Here's a thought - imagine being in the Heinkel fuselage (gunner position etc) and looking OUT through the bullet holes.

And then imagine a hurricane crashing into the fuselage just behind where you were standing, cutting off the whole tail section with its wing. Such nice air conditioning.
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