My proposal for a human level 5 unit.

[KongMysen]

i agree...

But best Lvl 5 human suggestion so far...

[Metathron]

Quite interesting, but I would prefer something different than a mere recolouring of an existing unit.

[pavned]

Originally Posted by Metathron

Quite interesting, but I would prefer something different than a mere recolouring of an existing unit.

The famous ArchAngel! Can see it having the Storm of heaven ability, like fiery rain but inflicting magic damages. The Judgement day ability could halve any undead ennemy stack (like the Archdemon ability but with 100% of success targeting only undead units). Finally Mass resurection should be one of his ability too, like the Paladin but without the need to have the units adjacent to the AA.

Maybe he'll be to powerfull!

One thing I'd like to see is that the level 5 units add something to the Hero on the world map. As I see it, having a level 5 unit of a specific race in your army should trigger a diplomacy skill for that particular race.

An even stronger effect is simply lowering the leadership requirements for that particular race, like equipment does.

[Zechnophobe]

I rather liked my idea for a Griffon Rider. I didn't give it stats, but something like:


55 Attack
45 Defense
7 Initiative
6 Move
15% Crit
730 hit points
80-90 Damage
Leadership 1500

(I'm a little unsure of leadership to damage ratio here)

Has two abilities, one active, one passive.

Active: Griffon Dive. Similar to dragon dive, targets a square within 5. The Griffon Rider flies high into the air and comes crashing down at the point of contact, dealing 40-45 damage to adjacent units and pushing them back one square.
Passive: Whenever Griffon Rider gets a kill with a melee attack, it gives all other human units 1 Action point (As if a level 1 Fit of Energy were cast on them).

Oh, and I guess it flies, that was obvious right?

Should like like an oversized Royal Griffon being rode by a silver Armored Knight style unit, with a massive lance.

[N3MES1S]

Humans doesnt have level 5 units because they have more level 3-4 units than the other sides. Instead of a new unit, i will re-make the archmage, right now, 5-9 dmg is ridiculous. Or maybe , an "Armored War Archmage" xD, a regular archmage with a battle armour and mounting a royal griffin. -.- About 500 hit points and almost 12-14 damage. That should be great. I think the dmg done by archmage is too low.

[mcgriffin]

Originally Posted by N3MES1S

Humans doesnt have level 5 units because they have more level 3-4 units than the other sides. Instead of a new unit, i will re-make the archmage, right now, 5-9 dmg is ridiculous. Or maybe , an "Armored War Archmage" xD, a regular archmage with a battle armour and mounting a royal griffin. -.- About 500 hit points and almost 12-14 damage. That should be great. I think the dmg done by archmage is too low.

It's actually 5-8.

BUT, archmage has the battle trance ability increasing his dmg to 10-16, which reloads every 3 turns and lasts for 2 turns. This makes it on par with other lvl 4 units.

[TemjinGold]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

I rather liked my idea for a Griffon Rider. I didn't give it stats, but something like:


55 Attack
45 Defense
7 Initiative
6 Move
15% Crit
730 hit points
80-90 Damage
Leadership 1500

(I'm a little unsure of leadership to damage ratio here)

Has two abilities, one active, one passive.

Active: Griffon Dive. Similar to dragon dive, targets a square within 5. The Griffon Rider flies high into the air and comes crashing down at the point of contact, dealing 40-45 damage to adjacent units and pushing them back one square.
Passive: Whenever Griffon Rider gets a kill with a melee attack, it gives all other human units 1 Action point (As if a level 1 Fit of Energy were cast on them).

Oh, and I guess it flies, that was obvious right?

Should like like an oversized Royal Griffon being rode by a silver Armored Knight style unit, with a massive lance.

The main benefit to fit of energy is a 2nd turn. This won't really happen due to the unit's high Initiative unless you have them wait every time they would get a kill.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by TemjinGold

The main benefit to fit of energy is a 2nd turn. This won't really happen due to the unit's high Initiative unless you have them wait every time they would get a kill.

This is meant to be a balancing factor. If you wait until end of turn, and then use them, you could be giving your entire team another turn, which is insanely good, but it requires you to do nothing else for a turn.

Even just getting a first action kill, and 'hasting' your army for a turn isn't too bad.