Logitech G940

Lucas_From_Hell · #1 01-09-2010, 04:25 PM

As far as I know, which is really little, the G940 also suffers from the games themselves. I hope the next generation of flight sims is better fitted to handle such equipment without shortcomings.

People mention that this happens specially with DCS: Black Shark. I truly hope developers take more care to new equipment and making their exclusive features compatible with the simulators. Otherwise, it's just useless to have a good FFB system if it doesn't work properly.

As we're going to get a pretty good number of sims this year, we'll be able to evaluate the G940 precisely.

Swaty, can you try to translate the article? I'm trying to use Babel Fish but it's still really hard to get everything.

IMHO, if after a year of heavy use, the G940 is still working properly, I think it will be approved. My only concern about this system is durability.

So far, it seems that some issues appeared with DCS: Black Shark, but I guess that, with a driver update and DCS: A-10C, it will be good to go.

I put my bets on the G940, as it's a full flight system with accessible price. If the HOTAS Warthog from Thrustmaster is about the same price as the Cougar, then the Logitech losts it's main advantage against the competitors, at least for me (considering prices for Cougar + CH/Saitek pedals are between 280 and 300 USD, about the same price as the G940).

Still, it has Force Feedback, and that's a big plus. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

335th_GRSwaty · #2 01-09-2010, 04:36 PM

Lucas, there is a very good review at SimHQ

http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_155a.html

The conclusion is pretty much the same!

Also there are some very interesting posts at forums.eagle.ru but site is down now.

Lucas_From_Hell · #3 01-09-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 335th_GRSwaty

Also there are some very interesting posts at forums.eagle.ru but site is down now.

Thought it was only here... It's been pretty unstable recently, going out quite often.

Thanks for the link for SimHQ's review, I'll check it.

EDIT: Now just a question: how does it feel compared to the Cougar and Fighterstick? The stick's shape is a very different from the F-16's, does it changes much when flying or it's just a matter of getting used to it?

335th_GRSwaty · #4 01-09-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

EDIT: Now just a question: how does it feel compared to the Cougar and Fighterstick? The stick's shape is a very different from the F-16's, does it changes much when flying or it's just a matter of getting used to it?

G940 is better than stock Cougar (with pots),accurate and quick.
I use Modded Cougar.I can say that is very easy to get use the Forces and set up.

I had G940 at 17 Dec and 20th went online.If you check the diagram below (no scientific and no technical ) you will see that after 2 days offline flying with G940, I was still the same bad pilot I use to be before!!

http://games.alkar.net/games/il2/stat/pilot/1404/0/

I don't have CH products ,so I can't tell about Fighterstick.

The stick shape maybe a problem for some guys because is thinner than Cougar and there is a hut,the ministick and 4 buttons on top panel.

Lucas_From_Hell · #5 01-09-2010, 10:22 PM

Thanks, Swaty.

Even if I went for Cougar, I wouldn't modify it in any way. It's too expensive.

But a question, what do you think about durability? Shall it last long enought to make it worth the price? Everyone heard of the sturdiness of the Cougar, Fighterstick and everything, and I guess their sucessors (Warthog and A-10 HOTAS) will have the same durability, but Logitech doesn't have a very good record on this matter when it comes to FFB sticks. This is turning some people away from the G940, and declining it without even giving it a chance. I don't know if you have played with it for enough time to give a final veredict, but from your first impression, does it seem sturdy?

335th_GRSwaty · #6 01-09-2010, 11:26 PM

Well,I really don't know...
Was my first experience with Logitech product.Looks good but you can never can tell.

I didn't like the sound of motors while stand by,the more they work the less life time they may have.

I guess, soon we will have more input from users they bought it and use it everyday.

In my opinion if someone is happy with his current flight system should wait,but is a good solution for someone who needs now a flight system.

Personally,I wouldn't switch Cougar+simped for G940 but if I would suggest it as an option to a buddy who starts IL-2 now.
Is not cheap, but the price is close to any similar solution. For instance X52 Pro & Pro Flight Rudder Bundle costs 255-268 €,CH set about 300€ e.t.c.

Chivas · #7 01-09-2010, 04:59 PM

If your used to hitting your target quickly I would avoid the G940 at-least until new drivers come out. The constant changes in force around the center and thru the x and y axis make targeting more difficult than it should be.
If your like most people and can't hit what your shooting at anyway, the G940 is a nice overall system.

Actually you can hit your target with the G940, but it takes a few seconds longer than with a more constant pressure stick...just long enough for his wingman to get in position to shoot you down.

Lucas_From_Hell · #8 01-09-2010, 05:10 PM

I'm already using force-feedback, so I'm somewhat used to aiming with the stick kicking all around. Plus, I can't hit a thing, anyway

The transition to FFB is just a matter of getting used to the system. Then, it's all wonders

Chivas · #9 01-09-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

I'm already using force-feedback, so I'm somewhat used to aiming with the stick kicking all around. Plus, I can't hit a thing, anyway

The transition to FFB is just a matter of getting used to the system. Then, it's all wonders

Actually I'm not talking about the force feedback being the problem...its the centering motor pressures being non existant in a large area around the center of the stick and crude motor forces going thru the X and Y axis. There is usually very little force feedback when flying smoothly, what forces are applied are usually constant, so FF isn't the problem.

KG26_Alpha · #10 01-09-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha
IL2 does have constant centering tension, with MSFFB2 I feel the this all the time...

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Originally Posted by Vorondil

Aah. It appears I had a few settings off, and now I do feel certain constant forces at various situations.

I thought it was strange you didn't feel it

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

I'm already using force-feedback, so I'm somewhat used to aiming with the stick kicking all around. Plus, I can't hit a thing, anyway

The transition to FFB is just a matter of getting used to the system. Then, it's all wonders

Remove all files from the forcefeed back folder in IL2 except:

mortar.ffe
spring.ffe

See how you get on