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[flynlion]

I think virtually all of the great piston engined fighters were influenced by 1930's air racers, why not accuse them all of "pinching"? To claim that the Japanese simply "pinch" other designs is an extremely simplistic viewpoint and ignores a great engineering accomplishment. Very few modern aircraft can perform as well as the Zero on as little fuel. Give 'em a little credit why don't ya?

[juz1]

I've already used words like "ingenuity"...and alot of the zeros performance was due to it lacking pretty much any safety equipment or luxury items (like radios) which pilots/ground crew would strip out post build to keep the weight down.

If credit is due its the pilots that fought in them. Great plane but bit of a death trap...
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[flynlion]

Originally Posted by juz1

If credit is due its the pilots that fought in them. Great plane but bit of a death trap...

I agree with you there, but we should also remember that the Zero only became a "death trap" after it had been in service for several years. Early in the war it was virtually unstoppable, and the allies never did produce a carrier based fighter that could match the Zeros range.

You also have not produced any evidence to indicate that the similarities between the Zero and the H1 were anything more than superficial. Clearly the Japanese were impressed by the H1. So was Kurt Tank. So what?

Ok, so maybe I'm getting a bit too defensive here. Point is I would LOVE to own a Zero as a peacetime toy. I would have to modify the cockpit some to get my 6'5" American sized body to fit, but what fun! And as efficient as the Zero was, I could even afford the gas bill

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by flynlion

I agree with you there, but we should also remember that the Zero only became a "death trap" after it had been in service for several years. Early in the war it was virtually unstoppable, and the allies never did produce a carrier based fighter that could match the Zeros range.

You also have not produced any evidence to indicate that the similarities between the Zero and the H1 were anything more than superficial. Clearly the Japanese were impressed by the H1. So was Kurt Tank. So what?

Ok, so maybe I'm getting a bit too defensive here. Point is I would LOVE to own a Zero as a peacetime toy. I would have to modify the cockpit some to get my 6'5" American sized body to fit, but what fun! And as efficient as the Zero was, I could even afford the gas bill

They do somewhat have the same characteristics as one another Long sleek body, and small. But you have to also realize, that most planes during certain decades look quite similar (kinda like cars of the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s etc.). I couldn't find anywhere on the net, that said Mitsubishi got their idea or design from the H1, or even that they looked at the H1 to make a fast plane. Though it does say Kurt Tank's FW design group did get somewhat inspired by the H1.

[flynlion]

And what about the Russians? Look at your picture Soviet, it's a fast airplane with a round engine! No way the inferior Soviet engineers could have come up with that on there own. They must have copied Howard Hughes!

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by flynlion

And what about the Russians? Look at your picture Soviet, it's a fast airplane with a round engine! No way the inferior Soviet engineers could have come up with that on there own. They must have copied Howard Hughes!

What? If you hadn't realized, most Radial engine planes have rounded off noses because the engines aren't straight, and if they were just flat (like early I-16s etc.) they just cause drag, rather making the plane more streamline.

[juz1]

funny- I didn't even mention the engine...start with the tail empennage, the wing planiform similarities...
nevermind, you've made your mind up already...

now as I believe it's my turn to set a plane pic to be identified you can jolly well shut up and pay attention
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