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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

View Poll Results: How would You like Teams to be Organized?
VAS Squadron vs Everyone Else 12 36.36%
VAS & Penor Flight vs Everyone Else 2 6.06%
Fresh, Random Teams (both equal in player skills, and numbers) 19 57.58%
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:07 PM
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Ahhh great news!

Cant wait to see what you got coming and get this badboy on the road
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:19 PM
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lol, I had to cut it into pieces but its finally Done!!!
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:39 PM
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Woah..... My brain hurts a bit after reading that!! .... but, it seems like a pretty good setup. My only concern is with the challenging and hosting of games. Potentially we could be looking at regular 8vs8 matches, and that will require hosts with very good connections to minimise lag.
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Old 01-07-2010, 12:55 PM
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Woah..... My brain hurts a bit after reading that!! .... but, it seems like a pretty good setup. My only concern is with the challenging and hosting of games. Potentially we could be looking at regular 8vs8 matches, and that will require hosts with very good connections to minimise lag.
Its a lot of material I know, most of it is just to explain how the system will work. You probably did not finish reading it all because you posted before I added the last piece.

I dont think we will have a problem with 8 vs 8 because this will be a rare case to have that many players online at once. Even if we had all players online at once it could work by splitting them into the 3 different Briefings. Example: 4 vs 4 on Territory Capture and the other 6 vs 6 on Strategic Bombing. I think these rules give many of options.

People, it sounds complicated because I explained EVERYTHING. However, you guys will only have to worry about playing, and knowing what the briefings are each week. That is all. Only if you get to the top 3 ranks, then, a little more understanding will be required. Maybe when I add the Map of Europe and Briefings you will find it easier (visuals help many).

Kozzmo,
It is important that you read them, tell me what you think. Since you have that private website for the USSR you will be my link to them.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:00 PM
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You're right... I did jump the gun a bit there... Having read the rest of the rules it definitely makes more sense. You must have put a lot of time into this mate.... Cheers!

So the "warm-up" game is on saturday? Damn, I won't be able to make that one, but I'll hopefully be able to get involved when the tourny starts properly next week.

Looking forward to it!
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:14 PM
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You're right... I did jump the gun a bit there... Having read the rest of the rules it definitely makes more sense. You must have put a lot of time into this mate.... Cheers!

So the "warm-up" game is on saturday? Damn, I won't be able to make that one, but I'll hopefully be able to get involved when the tourny starts properly next week.

Looking forward to it!
Thanks, this makes me feel much better. I was worried about not being able to send the message across correctly. Yes, It took some time and thinking that is why I really want people to understand how these rules work, Everything will be more fun if you understand how it all works, and it may even stimulate you to want to get more involved.

P.S. Everything has an explanation. I have more pages and notes to answer any "what if ?" situation. Ask and you will get an answer (please be sure to read all of the rules before posting a question, though)

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Old 01-07-2010, 01:51 PM
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After reading through it, I'm thinking that I'd quite like to get involved in the strategy of side of the tournament (assuming I can get a high enough rank). However, some people will just want to turn up and fly, so maybe you could do a very brief set of rules for those players. Maybe something like this:



For the player’s who just want to fly and aren’t worried about ranks and strategy.

Basic rules of the tournament:- Most importantly, Please listen to you what your superior officers say. They will let you know when the matches are, what aircraft are to be used, and your role in the battle.
- Treat all other players with respect.
- Add Edal86 to your friends list, so that you can send him screenshots if necessary.
- Add as many other players (from both teams) as you can to our friends list
- There are 4 types of matches: Air superiority (Team deathmatch), Strategic Bombing (Strike), Capture territory (Capture the Airfield) and VIP escort (Bomber escort on strike mode). The type of match will be chosen by the ranking officers on each team.
- Before the match starts, make sure you have the correct aircraft and loadout, and then ready yourself (So the green tick is showing). The host will start the match only when every player has done this, and a screenshot has been taken.
- Edal86 and the Officers in each team will take care of screenshots and statistics.
- No ramming bombers
- No ramming aircraft that have landed
- No babysitting captured airfields. Once and airfield has been captured, take off and fight asap.
- Officers cannot use the I-153.
- Each flight has can have a maximum of 200 deaths. Once that limit is reached, all ranks in that flight are reset.

Special rule for Bomber pilots:
Bombers are allowed to “re-arm”, To do this you can land your aircraft on your teams side of the map and take a screenshot (via the XMB menu) with the map opened, and your speed, altitude and bomb load at zero. For coastal maps like Sicily and Britain, you are allowed to land anywhere.
Please send the screenshot to Edal86 so that he can adjust the stats accordingly.
*Any editing of screenshots will result in a 2 week suspension from the tournament
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:13 PM
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Kozzmo,
It is important that you read them, tell me what you think. Since you have that private website for the USSR you will be my link to them.
first, I can't play sunday unless it's after 5 pacific time

I also doubt most or all of us will be ready to play for ranks today either. it would be better if we understood all the rules first... there are enough to make your head spin even if you're a native English speaker

I will have to re-read them to have a complete opinion but the first impression is it will work as long as people actually show up for the matches, and as long as there's no serious lag.

A few things that could be trouble:

) the i-153. Not that we mind having it.
) if sitting on an airfield is illegal, bombing the airfield should be also. Using a landed plane's MG is at least realistic and doesn't destroy the runway like bombs do. Drop 5 bombs on a runway and it's not a runway anymore.
) why only 1/3 bombers in strike missions? They're not so hard to kill.
) does a team have to win the war before they can get hangar E? Since both sides will buy the best possible hangar, they'd have to hold 4 territories for 3 weeks, or 3 for 5 weeks.
) strike mode is still pretty glitchy about when targets are actually destroyed. Also what about kamikazes in bomb missions?
) The rules will have to be translated into at least 2 other languages. If this starts in just a couple days, there will be a lot of people playing who don't know the rules, and will just jump into a furball as usual. Or who don't understand they can use an i-153 in that initial furball, or that they might face a whole team of i-153's.
) If the VIP is allowed an Arado, what do they even need an escort for? If a jet is crossing the map, it's gonna cross the map, there's no stopping it. Even an me-262 would get one head-on shot at most, after turning it would be too far behind to catch it in time. Though to get an Arado, I guess you have to win the war first to get hangar E
) 3 briefings a week... means 3 matches a week? That's impossible even in a 1 on 1 tournament.

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Old 01-07-2010, 03:24 PM
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oh dear...
a translation would be important. for me...
next questions
the briefing would explain, what options for a battle was choosen by our officers ?
anytime i died, i lost my rank ? or only when my flight lost 200 ?
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Old 01-07-2010, 03:26 PM
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Whoa... I think I'm going to need to print the rules and read them a few times. This stuff is pretty intense.
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