This Game is good.

[kennyb87]

You just dip the clutch for the gearchange to take effect the clutch isnt very well supported you dont need it to start or stop so you cant even stall the truck

[USA Trucker]

Originally Posted by kennyb87

the clutch isnt very well supported

I have been PMing with someone that has the Logitech G25 w/clutch, and he stated that it works perfectly once you program it. I guess it also depends on what steering console you are using. I inquired about it, because I have the same system, and this was the final deciding factor on purchasing this game, when it comes out internationally.

[Mr luder]

Theres no way the clutch is realistic.
The clutch works like you just press a key on your keyboard. Theres no kind of feeling you need for the clutch, you just press it and theres no reason to pay attention to it, since you cant do anything wrong while clutching.

I wont use the clutch anymore, since it's useless.

[pook]

Originally Posted by USA Trucker

I have been PMing with someone that has the Logitech G25 w/clutch, and he stated that it works perfectly once you program it. I guess it also depends on what steering console you are using. I inquired about it, because I have the same system, and this was the final deciding factor on purchasing this game, when it comes out internationally.

Who told you this?? American friend?? You Americans are accustomed to automatic and semi-so about why I think it's okay. But not. Standing on the spot, will go 1 gear, I let the clutch and it will not happen. To add gas then it gets under way this works both mutant between semi-automatic and manual. Order is similar to the system preferences. That means you did not press the clutch will go higher gear and the game waits until I press the clutch. Until then transferring. Then it works just as code transmission. This is not manual. But the specific mutation, the clutch semi-automatic .....

[USA Trucker]

Originally Posted by pook

Who told you this?? American friend?? You Americans are accustomed to automatic and semi-so about why I think it's okay.

First off, don't judge Americans on what they drive. There are many Americans that drive manual transmissions. I learned on a military jeep (manual) when I was 14. I have driven nothing but manual all my life. I also have been ridding a motorcycle since I was 20. I wouldn't know an automatic transmission if it hit me.

Secondly, the three individuals that told me that the G25 works great sent it to me via Private Message (PM). If they want to address this publicly, that is their decision. I won't break their privacy, just as I wouldn't break yours if you PM me.

I don't have this game yet, so I'll make my final judgment when the game comes out in the US. I know from other driving games that I play that the G25 has to be manually programmed in some cases to get the clutch to work properly, as those individuals also stated to me. I can tell you that these individuals are not from the US.

[pook]

USA Trucker:
Ok. So then, he will know when you play that it does not behave as a fully manual gearbox I have G25 2 years. I'm just playing habits of simulation type. LFS, RBR, rFactor, GTR series. I can set G25 and I can adjust to the steering wheel on the different games and I can say that RNR is first bad physics, and FF primitive in terms of transmission works as an extra mutation is semi-automatic clutch. Such a system does not exist in the real world, so I call the "mutant" because in reality it does not specify.

PS: I'm in real-life trucker, so I know what I mean. Yes trucker in Europe. This is different behavior of American and European truck such as axles and stiffness, but different systems gearbox. In principle, the activities are similar. (in control). Except for minor differences. Direct engagement and synchronized. (Europe's old trucks were previously too direct engagement, so I know how it works in practice ).....

[flykas]

Originally Posted by pook

USA Trucker:
Ok. So then, he will know when you play that it does not behave as a fully manual gearbox I have G25 2 years. I'm just playing habits of simulation type. LFS, RBR, rFactor, GTR series. I can set G25 and I can adjust to the steering wheel on the different games and I can say that RNR is first bad physics, and FF primitive in terms of transmission works as an extra mutation is semi-automatic clutch. Such a system does not exist in the real world, so I call the "mutant" because in reality it does not specify.

PS: I'm in real-life trucker, so I know what I mean. Yes trucker in Europe. This is different behavior of American and European truck such as axles and stiffness, but different systems gearbox. In principle, the activities are similar. (in control). Except for minor differences. Direct engagement and synchronized. (Europe's old trucks were previously too direct engagement, so I know how it works in practice ).....

yeah, I can't see a point of having such type of clutch in real life as it doesn't disconet engine from the wheels so in real life it would be autoclutch instead.

[USA Trucker]

@Pook,

I'm not going to debate something I don't have yet. Some people say G25 works great, and others don't. Some know how to program it, others don't. Of the 3 people that say it works just fine, 2 are also Real-Life Truckers, and so was I not too long ago. So, I will be able to determine this for myself.

I evaluate everyones opinion, and use it as a guide for face value, good, bad, or indifferent, and then form my own opinion, when I get the game.

[ReddogTn]

Well I think US out of luck it would seem when it come to buying this game. Second Dont get me wrong I want as Much real as I can get Of these game, But youre asking for the wourld here. You want that much detail In Phics Go get you're CDL's Then you can talk to me about Phics. Such driving up a Major Mountains in snow. I know I've Been there Done that. We play these games to get close as possible, But lets face it we are not that close yet in the gaming wourld. That would be 10 20 years maybe from know. But for its time its seems atleast pretty good, Atleast Better than SCS. SCS is a joke I'm glad they make games cause frankly no esle will on trucks Ea doesn't touch it or neither does the other big Company's. But Ive played ever single one of SCS. Frankly Graphice wise is a ******* joke! Phics a Joke. In fact the only way I can get anything out of it, Is to get a mod from a player that change the game. Like trucks, Or grass such. In fact thats how I ran across this game in the first place. Been dreaming I hade the damn thing for 5 hours know, But wait I'm American we not alowed to Sh%t! But all in all the game looks great opens the door hopefully to Improvements in this type of game. But 8 Years for this type of game? Man way to slow. Ive seen Darkfall online which is a online game MMO play style very Complex game to make and keep with in the lines to work right with good grachics, and even with only 20 man ream they completed there's in 6 years. Europ game By the way.

[flykas]

Originally Posted by ReddogTn

Well I think US out of luck it would seem when it come to buying this game. Second Dont get me wrong I want as Much real as I can get Of these game, But youre asking for the wourld here. You want that much detail In Phics Go get you're CDL's Then you can talk to me about Phics. Such driving up a Major Mountains in snow. I know I've Been there Done that. We play these games to get close as possible, But lets face it we are not that close yet in the gaming wourld. That would be 10 20 years maybe from know. But for its time its seems atleast pretty good, Atleast Better than SCS. SCS is a joke I'm glad they make games cause frankly no esle will on trucks Ea doesn't touch it or neither does the other big Company's. But Ive played ever single one of SCS. Frankly Graphice wise is a ******* joke! Phics a Joke. In fact the only way I can get anything out of it, Is to get a mod from a player that change the game. Like trucks, Or grass such. In fact thats how I ran across this game in the first place. Been dreaming I hade the damn thing for 5 hours know, But wait I'm American we not alowed to Sh%t! But all in all the game looks great opens the door hopefully to Improvements in this type of game. But 8 Years for this type of game? Man way to slow. Ive seen Darkfall online which is a online game MMO play style very Complex game to make and keep with in the lines to work right with good grachics, and even with only 20 man ream they completed there's in 6 years. Europ game By the way.

I agree about the slow development.It's strange.But I don't really know I can't judge.

And about the physics, I totaly disagree. Yeah I know we could imagine it is ok, but It's is a great let down to have to imagine it, I can't feel the joy of driving a car. I mean, it would be okay if it wasn't possible, but there are games that proves that it is possible so why we should tolerate such s***y physics and go back. It makes me mad. And the fact that Hard Truck 2 (preveous part of this game) had one of the best physics ever made. It was glitchy, but car had weight, and moved pretty naturally. And now it just some cheap imitation. Even when maneuvering slow ,truck moves incorectly. It is very sad. Good physics is all It needs. Btw: I have drivers license. If you want to see posibilities of physics in gaming world try: Hard truck 2, 1nsane, Cross Racing championship, Richard Burns Rally,Screamer 4x4, gta 4