"Wings" Of Prey (PC). Watchout Oleg!

[zangler]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

It can't BE stunning and great UNLESS its realistic. So you have already conceded that point.



Who says you can't have both in 2010

this is my first post on this forum...but thought this was an interesting thread...

i think we are coming to the age where we can have both...and submit this as some evidence:

note: this is also a WIP still and is not WWII...but to me looks fantastic and for those that know DCS...im not sure any argument could be made at all on the realism or simulation side of it...



re sized for post original can be found here along with some others:

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_425a.html

[proton45]

I agree with whoever it was that said this thread was "painful" to read...its utterly,utterly painful.

On the one hand the "in-game" screen shots do look pretty cool...but frankly I'm kind of tired of the "Saving Private Ryan" color tint that this game has. It seems like an "old hat" cinema effect that I wouldn't even tolerate in a new war movie. Should I now change my opinion just because its a video game, and not a movie?

I just wonder one thing...(I know its not this simple, but) I wish that their was a magic button I could push, and I wish that this magic button could remove the "Private Ryan" color effect from the game...and then, after the cinema effect was removed, we could see the "realism quality" of the color/graphics.

Oh, BTW happy X-Mass eve you all!!!!

[Necrobaron]

I don't really mind it in a movie, but being that a sim is supposed to replicate what you see in reality as best as possible, such filters and effects don't have a place there.
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[zaelu]

I played the demo a bit today.

The only thing that should be taken into account are the visuals. Yes, the tint is a bit to "movie like" and the sun glare is retina burning (really hurts eyes) but what is observable are:

- better looking maps, better terrain, better roads (no more 45° bends), better looking cities (did I said better looking cities?) , better harbors etc. Basically, in maps regard, IL-1946 can win only in size discipline. I guess they did got a lot of help from Maddox at the cities... they look pretty much like the shots from SoW over England cities.
-better shaders on aircrafts. Self shadowing, self reflecting planes. Whater pouring on the canopy as you pass to a cloud (makes me laugh at the fact I was killed gazilions times in IL-2 1946 in the clouds, you will kill squat in there)
-better effects, explosions, tracers, shockwaves (some overdone but could be tone down), smokes on the ground (you can't see nothing through that fog down there and looks really... real).

Tower communications less controllable but somehow more immersive.
Better story telling at intermezzos.

What I want to say is this:

I want IL-2 1946 to have the visuals of Birds of Prey minus that heavy contrast and milky sunglare... and long range view...


And one screenshot from the game credits :

[eleazar]

i can not understand that why people here critic WoP that much. I mean, is that so fantastic about being a sim player who only know nothing other than "realistic game". Come on guys, your are killing the whole sim industry! Seriously, how many ppl are really SERIOUS sim players? just log on to hyperlobby and have a look. Compair to games like MW2, the none "realistic" but addictive game, which only features nothing but point and shot.

And FYI, there are many ppl out there playing HAWX than playing LOFS, IL2, OF and BS. Why? because there just aren't that many ppl who want to be that serious and learn ALL the skills that only a pilot needs to know. I see many ppl quit OF after 1 month because it's just way too difficult, and OF is one of the most releastic flight sim!

So please, don't kill your sim games, don't use realistic to shoot down all the nice done arcade games. If oleg is the one who did WoP, (sadly not) that means for whatever the money they earn from WoP, they can put into BoB. If they have enough money for BoB, that means the development of BoB will be MUCH FASTER. (Hint ~)

So, let WoP be WoP. it's a good game, nice to film movie, will be loved by lots of player who just want to get into the air and have fun. Seriously, we haven't seen such nicely done game for many years.

Best Regards

[drafting]

Hey, why not... here're some of the screenshots I've been taking from the WoP beta (untouched except for resizing) . What can I say? I think the game looks pretty good.













I think there's enough room on a gamer's shelf for Wings of Prey and Storm of War.

[mungee]

I agree 100% with "drafting" - there IS room on one's shelf for BOTH WoP and SoW!
I have bought virtually every WWII combat flight sim since the launch of CFS 1 (back in 199 ... with the exception of about 4 or so (definite) arcade-type sims.

I have bought CFS 1,2 & 3, B-17 Flying Fortress, European Air War, Battle of Britain (Rowan), Fighter Squadron/Screamin' Demons, Jane's WWII Fighters and obviously the original IL-2 Sturmovik and all of its add-on's.
I must say, each of these sims has had their strong and weak points ... and that's what's been so interesting.
Clearly IL-2 and its add-on's "raised the bar" and remain the no. 1 in my opinion.
However, I also have fond memories of the great immersion that I used to experience with Jane's WWII Fighters (the missions were varied and the effects/sounds were great!).

I will purchase WoP (hopefully on DVD!!! - our bandwidth down here in South Africa is expensive and relatively slow) - I think that WoP's graphics are "jaw-dropping" - the cities especially (however I'm sure that Olga will do a superb job of SoW's! Hehe!), small touches like the grime around the edges of the cockpit perspex frames, the smoke hanging over fires, the light shadows within the cockpits, the flame and explosion effects and the general "atmospherics" ... they're all brilliant.

It goes without saying that I will be getting SoW as soon as it is published later next year (15 Sept - Battle of Britain Day, perhaps?) and I'm sure that Oleg and his team will once again "raise the bar" to a level that we never ever imagined!

Olrg, if you are reading this - thank you for providing me with so much pleasure - a day of my life does not go by without me either "flying " Il-2/1946 or at least checking on all the Il-2/1946 forums for news! It's a massive part of my life (and I'm 57 years old!).