Red Tide player Review

[blanketsmeller]

Originally Posted by Sneaksie

Glorification of 'feats' of these one of the best and most famous members of the criminal organization including mass murdering of civilian population, atrocities, punitive operations, executions, genocide and other crimes against humanity is not in line with the policy of our company, so making an SS game fraction is out of the question.

Are you saying they are not Men of war??? The SS won many battles in ww2. im not telling you to make a SS fraction that murder civilian population, atrocities, punitive operations, executions, genocide.

also i mention about the airbron. its still better then playing as a bunch of sailors.

also i mentioned somthing about poor AI, whats up with that?

[Blackriot]

The Waffen SS should be fine to display for they were placed on the battlefield. However many elements that in fact committed atrocities were associated with the SS but were apart from the Waffen SS.

The Black Sea Naval Infantry were ferocious fighters and I'm glad they were portrayed in this title, but I was looking forward to playing AS the Italians, Romanians, and Germans as well.

Overall I feel the game lacks a lot of key features that could of been easily applied such as Multiplayer, co op, and more campaigns to offer variety and re-playability.



I rate the game about a 6.5

[Nikitns]

no. Waffen SS men served as concentration guards as well as soldiers. There was a rotation system in place.

Yes, Red tide simply isn't as good as Men of war. 6-7/10 is a fair score.

Men of war would score 9/10 with me.

[haorant]

I would play any nation even SS because the men of war series is so good and has never disapointed me. So I will play úntil it dose(which hopefully is never). Red tide isnt a bad game, okay its not as good as the original but its still a very good game. AI is not at all bad they are so smart that even playing this game on easy is a very very big challenge. But I agree with blanketsmeller about the fact that soilders have so little ammo its just too little!!

[Blackriot]

Nikitns can you provide a source where SS men were used as guards?

I know that the SS as an organization were involved in many terrible things including concentration camps but the Waffen SS were purely a military group.

[MilkaCow]

Originally Posted by Blackriot

Nikitns can you provide a source where SS men were used as guards?

I know that the SS as an organization were involved in many terrible things including concentration camps but the Waffen SS were purely a military group.

The Schutz-Staffel (SS) was just the head-organisation for the many minor parts, out of which the Waffen-SS is one.
They were created in november 1939 and formed out of the old SS-Totenkopfverbänden and SS-Verfügungstruppen. While the majority of the armed troops of the SS served the same purposes as the Wehrmacht and was similiar armed, there were also troops whose purpose was not front combat.
One of them was the fifth division, the SS-Totenkopf Standarte (SS-Skull-Division). They were not armed for frontal combat (i.e. had no artillery, no heavy weapons) and were not to be used as normal troops, but surpression forces in conquered territories aswell as guarding the concetration camps.

Well, i guess you can easily find sources for that in english if you want to.
Since i am german i could only give you german sources. Guess they are more reliable than translated ones.

[August Schreiner]

From what I can remember some personnel of the SS-Totenkopfverbände (concentration camp guards and administration), the Allgemeine-SS and other organizations served in the SS-Verfügungstruppe which was basically the predecessor to the Waffen-SS. The SS-Totenkopfverbände Standarten or regiments along with the SS-Heimwehr Danzig would form what would become one of the infamous formations of the Waffen-SS, the 3.SS Division 'Totenkopf'.

Anyways, that's off subject.

In regards to Men of War: Red Tide, the plot, ideas and new features it offers are fresh, but why not make that freshness last by adding multiplayer support? Afterall, I'd have to think that the overwhelming majority of players want multiplayer to be included. The new features in combination with multiplayer-support would only give them even more of an incentive to buy and play it.

I know that the single-player campaign in Men of War: Red Tide is based on the memoirs of a soldier in the Soviet Naval Infantry or the Black Coats, but I don't think including a few single player missions for the Axis, including the Romanians and Italians would hurt. Why not utilize these new forces for great opportunities of ideas for new missions? Afterall, I think some players would be interested in their perspective since they're often overlooked in regards to the Eastern Front and the war in general. Perhaps a mission involving the Romanians in Operation 60,000 could be done. This operation was a rescue effort whose objective involved evacuating Axis forces from the Crimea, of which is arguably comparable to that of Dunkirk in terms of the manuevers and dangers involved.