A plea to the players...

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by trueshotcaller

With all the problems still present in the way kills and crashes are tallied, does the way rank is tallied and posted really matter? To me the ranking boards should be de-emphasized a bit.

the difference between a few ranks doesn't matter, but nobody likes to drop out of the top 12. The boards aren't totally accurate, but the strongest players still generally end up on the 1st page. And it's a good incentive to improve your skills.

Since my style is usually to wound my opponent then close in for the kill, I lose credit for a lot of kills. So it's not easy to outrank heavy shooters like Mergirvin or Cosmo79. But I was #2 behind Mergirvin for a while, and I didn't mind seeing that on the dogfight board. Most of us would be lying if we said we didn't care about our level. Not all, but most...

the board for CTA is also pretty accurate since your points are based on successful landings and captures. It's right to rank wpedra0 #1.

Since you're gonna be in the team tournament, make sure to practice CTA. Most people don't. It will matter.

[trueshotcaller]

Cool, I'll do that. I tend to agree with Edal's general sentiment, in that the leaderboards don't really matter much. As a nice reference maybe to the top players, but that should pretty much be the extent of it.

The sooner we can get away from an obsession to be 'the' top player, the sooner we can focus on building a great online community, where winning and losing matters of course, but that equal emphasis can be placed on comraderie, fair play, and mutual respect for all of our fellow pilots.

[philabong2]

Originally Posted by edal86

When the game came out, I cared about my rank and I only used the Spitfire IX. I was number 1 for everything on SIM mode for weeks. Now, I have not seen the leaderboards in a very long while and, truly, I dont care about them. So if any of you guys needs 1 on 1 practice I will use the M.C. 202, P-47, Fw 190, P-51 (even though these last 3 planes were fixed they are still no match for spitfire, yak, or La series). I wont care to be defeated, but I wont let you beat me so easily otherwise you would learn nothing.

add me trueshotcaller, same goes for any PS3 SIM Newbie

+1

any1 feel free to add me too. I'm def not as good as any1 mentioned above, but I get the feeling that flyin with/against equally skilled pilots is also great practice - as much as flying against more experienced pilots imo. And I usually dont go too hard on a guy if I see he's a rookie (sorry if i've been in the past, dont remember doing this, mayb when drunk, lol)

And any1 of u more experienced pilots that want to give me pratice sessions with cockpit view - please send me invite... got totally owned yesterday in these TB... couldnt see sh*t

Originally Posted by kozzm0

...Watch out for beanno on ps3, not kidding.

Def not kidding!!!

I understand. I've been playing over 2 months now and mostly run up against the same guys. In arcade mostly, which I assume is where you play. There is definately teaming going on out there. I have made a few friends but mostly let the roll of the dice make up the teams. I get frustrated when I get my ass handed to me over and over by some "teams". I will fly away if it gets too bad and not give them the satisfaction of downing me again. I don't want a rep of a quitter so I'll rarely quit outright. Just don't quit and give up. You will get better (there is no other choice) and your days will come! Very very satisfying to shoot these fools down!!! Especially when I can here them talking and they get pissed when I get 'em!! Make sure you learn the games rules well. You won't win if you don't understand how it works. Host your own games and play CAT and Strike. Giving the "teams" something else to do other than hunting you frees you up to practice flying and shooting.

My Thrustmaster has been shipped and I will be joining the sim community soon!!!! Get my ass handed to me all over again!!!

[Shadowcorp]

team stacking it happens. there is a team tournament in arcade and some teams are getting in some practice, can't say i blame them. Plus alot of us arcade players (myself included) come on the game to play with our friends and talk to them something you can't do very well in your on their opposite side for twenty minutes.
I'm sorry if this is harsh to new players, just do what most new players do go shoot down some bombers in strike. My last 6 fights in tb have all been against those i would consider aces or at the very least veteran, because the noobs have been get their chops smoking bombers in strike

[irrelevant]

Originally Posted by philabong2

And any1 of u more experienced pilots that want to give me pratice sessions with cockpit view - please send me invite... got totally owned yesterday in these TB... couldnt see sh*t

LOL - that was plenty of fun. In my opinion, that is the way the game is meant to be played... in the cockpit. For me, it adds the level of realism I've been looking for... and it makes things TOUGH.

Mirgervin, Macademic and I were having a good laugh playing as a squad of P-51's. We were happy to get ONE kill in that match.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by irrelevant

LOL - that was plenty of fun. In my opinion, that is the way the game is meant to be played... in the cockpit. For me, it adds the level of realism I've been looking for... and it makes things TOUGH.

Mirgervin, Macademic and I were having a good laugh playing as a squad of P-51's. We were happy to get ONE kill in that match.

Glad you were laughing too, cause it got pretty sad when we followed up the yak-3's with the sturmoviks. I think anyone with big hopes for the p51 in dogfight is gonna be disappointed. If Sturmovik is your plane, though, it's a lot better in dogfights than I expected, and nearly invincible if you use the gunner. If I recall right, even the la-5's were slaughtered...

I misspelled the name above, the PSN id is Beeano, case-sensitive.

I'm already disappointed with the 51. The tip stalls are still a big liability, even in arcade! It will stall in arcade and just hang there or do a couple flip flops. Totally out of control. I tried boom n zooming but its not fast enough to outrun a spit or 109. It still just won't turn tight enough, and if you try to force it-stall. You can't stay on anybodys tail long enough. I really don't understand what the hell the devs were thinking on a few things in this patch. Don't they fly there own products before dumping them out there? There is no American plane worth a damn in a dogfight. A 17 will get you more kills than a Mustang or Thunderbolt will. Spits, 109's and Hurri's are still the order of the day in Arcade.

[kozzm0]

The p51 was a fast plane because of a good airfoil and low drag, not because of acceleration. Its thrust-to-weight ratio was about 0.18 hp/lb, lower than the spitfires. If the spits are out-accelerating you, that's why. Spits don't have a high top speed, at least not in sim.

The p47 has even higher wing loading than p51 so it's a bad alternative as a dogfighter. There were better American dogfighters than those two. Some of the best Russian aces preferred the p-39 airacobra to their own yak's and la's, the p-39's were lend-leased to the USSR. In Europe most of the air-to-air fighting was centered around bombing which was a moving battle, which p51 excels at, not the anchored dogfights BOP is mostly about

[monyetension]

did anyone here see me in arcade? i play arcade most of the time...

you guys can add me & my only local friend his PSN id: fukairei

both of us often play together...

cheers!