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Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

That's OK - the American tax payer has deep pockets

Not this American taxpayer. It's not too late to modify the f-35 with ovt and remove the vtol.

Su-37 was a testbed, it was never intended for production. There were only 1 or 2 ever made. Same with su-47. That didn't stop Ace Combat and Hawx from having whole squadrons of them though. When I played the Hawx demo, and at the end saw 4 su-47's attacking me, I knew it was Ace Combat 7, except you couldn't use cockpit view.

PAK-FA is supposedly going to have both ovt and stealth. No doubt they'll put ovt on it, or all that testing was for nothing. But the Russian government is also putting heavy pressure on them to make a stealth plane. That's probably why it's so far behind schedule. They were supposed to roll out this year, now they say early next year.