Friday 2009-11-20 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[Romanator21]

I don't think anyone has mentioned that the pilot should press every button, pick his nose and scratch his groins while flying. Just hold on to the stick and maybe touch a throttle every now and then if we would have that luxury.

No need to slander suggestions even if you're not for them.

I don't think I mentioned that the pilot should scratch his groin either. However, people have asked for a complex first person view bailout routine, or if his plane ditches, where water gushes into the cockpit.

I did not mean for that post to come off as slander. You can believe me when I say that I wouldn't mind a nicely modeled figure in the cockpit. Maybe I wont fly with him all the time, but it could make for some nice movies scenes. And who knows, maybe it is really immersive.

But I am somewhat opposed to the idea when folks demand it right now. There are too many other things for Oleg's team to work on, and in no way will making even the most basic figure fit into the current time frame. If there is a pilot, I don't want a half-job clunky and immobile mannequin on which I "can see my own headless body" with a 6DOF. I would rather have something of quality, that at the very least looks convincing (and no, it doesn't have to reach out and press buttons).

In the current time frame, which is now very limited, I think it would be better if the team focused on the core of the game. Pilot figures will be added later by someone enthusiastic about them. Then you will download such a mod, and hey-presto! But modding FM, and DM which were forgotten in favor of the pilot figure is likely out of the question.

I want to say again, that I respect your and others right to want a pilot in the first person view, but I just want to make it clear that we all need to be patient for these sorts of things. Game design is extremely difficult, anyone will tell you. To do it to the highest standard will of course take time, even if it seems "easy" to you. SoW has taken years to develop; I don't think it is because Oleg and Co. are just playing Tetris all day.

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by whatnot

Is I said in the post it is the sam ballpark for ME.

I don't really understand this mentality of saying that what is important to person x is not REALLY important because it's not important for ME.

just giving you a hard time

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Abraxa

What the others said....

Since we're on the Italian birds, time ago I sent you and Alex (if I remember correctly) all the informations that I could gather (thx also to Pag and Ferdinando d'Amico) on the camouflage of the Br 20, colour picts included.
The 3D model is really stunning, but I'm sorry to say that the camouflage is still wrong, if not in the colour tones (the RLMs look to be those that we suggested), at least in the pattern of the mottling.

I pointed out the camo problem but I received no answer.
You still have my email, I guess. Feel free to contact me in case you need more details and help.

Unfortunatelly I lost all emails: you and Ferdinando d'Amico....
I can send you the textures of Fiats and you'll try to explain or correct the colors with the help of Italian community. The we will put them in a sim. Just you should understand that in engine colors(tints) are in constant changes due to fact of real physics for the day-night light colors. It dpends even if you fly in clouds or out of them.
So really just simple correction probably would be hard...

My enail is still the same.

[Abraxa]

Hi Oleg, the colours look fine to me. The mottling should be different.
I'll send you an email later today.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Insuber

I passed on your Q. to some of the best experts in Italy ...

As far as I know, the directive of the Regia Aeronautica to paint the fighters nose in yellow was effective - in all war theaters - from early spring to october 1941, therefore it was probably used in the last period by the Italian BoB expeditionary airforce (CAI), which ceased operations on April 15th 1941.

I don't know if it was used before spring 1941 by any CAI groups, but the super-experten will soon pop in ..


Bye,
Insuber

I've been corrected by a (real) expert, 150GCT_Pag: the noses of CR.42s and G.50s of CAI were painted in yellow shortly after their arrival in October '40, with German paints, to facilitate their identification and for sake of uniformity with the German ally.

So yellow noses were adopted starting from October 1940, independently from the directive of Regia Aeronautica of June 22nd 1941 (thanks to 150GCT_Pag for the clarification).

Regards,
Insuber

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Insuber

I've been corrected by a (real) expert, 150GCT_Pag: the noses of CR.42s and G.50s of CAI were painted in yellow shortly after their arrival in October '40, with German paints, to facilitate their identification and for sake of uniformity with the German ally.

So yellow noses were adopted starting from October 1940, independently from the directive of Regia Aeronautica of June 22nd 1941 (thanks to 150GCT_Pag for the clarification).

Regards,
Insuber

Ok, we will have both with and without yellow nose in a sim.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

It´s unbelievable the things you learn in this hobby!!

[airmalik]

Originally Posted by whatnot

1) Clickable cockpit

First check this out:

I have always liked the idea of a clickable cockpit and after seeing the video I started drooling of my own powerglove.

Great video! I wasn't a fan of clickable cockpits because I thought it'd be too cumbersome to click with a mouse but with something like this ... WOW! I'm convinced. I'd wait for a third party to implement clickable cockpits though.

[zaelu]

Good thing it doesn't have the pilot in it... god knows what else that guy would think to do with that devilish hand...


Teh future is bright though!

[Necrobaron]

Haha! I was thinking the same thing!

Originally Posted by ECV56_Lancelot

It??s unbelievable the things you learn in this hobby!!

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