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Old 11-07-2009, 06:28 AM
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i see an explosion of updates and many time dadicated from athors...
it seems that BOB is going to be out at last...

anyway,great work..
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:23 AM
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Dang. Had to register finally to ask some questions.

Seeing these boats raised the following questions for me...


1a) Are we going to be getting flyable seaplanes/floatplanes/flying boats?
1b) If so, will there be possible missions rescuing shot down flyers?

2a) Will we get to run anti-shipping patrols/convoy attack missions?
2b) If yes, will the ships take evasive actions to avoid torpedoes, or try to dodge level bombing attacks (Presumably this could be scaled to depend on visibility as well)?

3) Is it possible in the future that we will get to see guided anti shipping weapons like the Germans used on the Fw-200s (and other planes, but that's whats on my mind right now).


Can't wait to see the next update :p
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:23 AM
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For a moment I heard seagulls...
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:33 PM
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Thanks for the update Oleg. And thank you team too.

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the update.

A couple of questions:

- I hope the stopped propeller when pause is pressed is configurable. It may not be always wanted when taking screen shots and so.

- Will it have a resource to export aircraft data so we can link with other peripherals and apps (as devicelink did, but more comprehensive - simpit intended)? Will it work also online?

- Could one watch a recorded track from another pilot PoV (inside his cockpit)?

From the past preview we saw, it will have moving air masses. so...

- Will it have gauges to provide windspeed, temperature and pressure? (high level precision bombing intended)

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Old 11-09-2009, 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the update.

A couple of questions:

1. - I hope the stopped propeller when pause is pressed is configurable. It may not be always wanted when taking screen shots and so.

2. - Will it have a resource to export aircraft data so we can link with other peripherals and apps (as devicelink did, but more comprehensive - simpit intended)? Will it work also online?

3. - Could one watch a recorded track from another pilot PoV (inside his cockpit)?

From the past preview we saw, it will have moving air masses. so...

4. - Will it have gauges to provide windspeed, temperature and pressure? (high level precision bombing intended)

thanks
tityus
1. Yes we will solve this in future by one or other way.
2. We will have new device link. Probably it will work online as well.
3. Proabbly. Can't say now.
4. If it is in a cockpit - then we model it. In Sow now most gauges are working, if not all.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Oleg Maddox Oleg Maddox is offline
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Dang. Had to register finally to ask some questions.

Seeing these boats raised the following questions for me...


1a) Are we going to be getting flyable seaplanes/floatplanes/flying boats?
1b) If so, will there be possible missions rescuing shot down flyers?

2a) Will we get to run anti-shipping patrols/convoy attack missions?
2b) If yes, will the ships take evasive actions to avoid torpedoes, or try to dodge level bombing attacks (Presumably this could be scaled to depend on visibility as well)?

3) Is it possible in the future that we will get to see guided anti shipping weapons like the Germans used on the Fw-200s (and other planes, but that's whats on my mind right now).


Can't wait to see the next update :p
1a. Currently we have just spitfire with gear-boats that we did just for one purpose - tuning of physics and feel of landing-take off. This isn't MKV like it was in reality... we simply used existing model of our spit.
1b. Probably it will make third parties in the future. In Campaign I planned some feature... After he was shot down, landed in water, pilot waiting in the water for the rescue aircraft and we did for both sides such aircraft. I don't know yet if it will be finally possible to program due to limit of time.

2a. If we are making ships with damage model then this means only one thing - yes.
2b. Can say now just one thing. AI of ships is present It isn't like in Il-2 - movements just by waypoints.

3. It is possible in Il-2 1946 with X-4 rockets. It is the same feature. So when we or third party will be ready to make such things in a new sim, then it will be. The differences in Air to Air and Air to Ground/ship guided rockets is minimal in programming.
The other things is by wire guided or by RC-guided. In programming it is almost the same... but visually... wire and its behavior is to make very hard, including collision of wire in case with own aircraft... So variants with wire we probably will not model... or ar least visals and collisions of wire itself. Of course.. I thing some of third party may do even such things using our base code for this purpose.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:40 PM
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1a. Currently we have just spitfire with gear-boats that we did just for one purpose - tuning of physics and feel of landing-take off. This isn't MKV like it was in reality... we simply used existing model of our spit.
1b. Probably it will make third parties in the future. In Campaign I planned some feature... After he was shot down, landed in water, pilot waiting in the water for the rescue aircraft and we did for both sides such aircraft. I don't know yet if it will be finally possible to program due to limit of time.

2a. If we are making ships with damage model then this means only one thing - yes.
2b. Can say now just one thing. AI of ships is present It isn't like in Il-2 - movements just by waypoints.

3. It is possible in Il-2 1946 with X-4 rockets. It is the same feature. So when we or third party will be ready to make such things in a new sim, then it will be. The differences in Air to Air and Air to Ground/ship guided rockets is minimal in programming.
The other things is by wire guided or by RC-guided. In programming it is almost the same... but visually... wire and its behavior is to make very hard, including collision of wire in case with own aircraft... So variants with wire we probably will not model... or ar least visals and collisions of wire itself. Of course.. I thing some of third party may do even such things using our base code for this purpose.
Cool, thanks for all the info (though I'll have to look up which anti shipping munitions were wire guided, and which were radio guided...)

I guess my only real concern was the issue that many anti shipping weapons were un-powered, but I'm guessing that won't be much of an issue in the long run.

I'm really glad to hear you say that the ships will finally react with more than just AAA. Some guys like to do 8 hour bombing runs...I'd rather do an 8 hour patrol over the atlantic.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:01 PM
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Hi,

Would be interested to know if RAF aircraft will fly in Vics as standard in BOB as they did historically.

This was very difficult / impossible to achieve when modelling early-war RAF in il-2 (though I am aware that il-2 never really attempted to cover this theatre/time.)

So I would hope that there will be a means of choosing formation type in the mission parameters so that RAF can fly vics in 1940 then move to finger four in 1941, etc.

Also, one of my pet peeves with il2: wingmen who abandon formation and charge headlong at the enemy on first sighting! Would like to see an ai pilot spotting a distant enemy formation call out clock and height postion while maintaining discipline and formation. (possible exceptions being some rookies and Polish!)
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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Would like to see an ai pilot spotting a distant enemy formation call out clock and height postion while maintaining discipline and formation. (possible exceptions being some rookies and Polish!)
without the polish pilots in BoB it would have been the slaughter of Britain instead, and you'd all be speaking german now

aside from that, whatever pilots broke the V formation instruction were the smart ones, and were much more likely to survive for longer (free historical fact for you there)

so no, no artificial imposed V formations plz Oleg !! by all means have the AI take of and loosely assemble like that, for SOME flights but then also have human instructions to AI that lets them form up in pairs of 2, and groups of 4

kendo, read "the most dangerous enemy" (a history of the battle of britain by stephen bungay), which is one of the most accurate week by week accounts of the BoB. V formations were not uniformly adhered to from day 1 by the brits, even if that was still considered the official instruction. the initial brittish pilots that had encounters with the germans over france quickly learned to improvise and find better solutions then the V, and by the time the official BoB started many of the experienced pilots (ie those with high flighing hrs, even without combat experience at that point) did not stick to the V. yes some units did and quickly were decimated, but to artificially impose that on all the brittish flights would be most unrealistic.
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