Friday 2009-10-30 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[Billy885]

Originally Posted by AdMan

no way, that's satisfaction to me. Also in online play you need that so you know you got the kill.

Originally Posted by akdavis

Hi Oleg,

The atmosphere is shaping up to be quite stunning and the most real I've seen in any computer game.

I asked this question in the other thread, but I think too late:

I see that right side blue text "messages" are still present (but maybe only for development). If we will still have these messages in game, will they be customizable? I feel that messages like "enemy tank destroyed" are big immersion killers (and sort of pointless), but at the same time messages for certain aspects of engine management are very needed due to lack of direct tactile feedback in a sim.

I dont know what game you all are playing but you can turn that off and on with what we have now. Its call "NoHudLog" if I remember right. Just change the 0 (zero) to a 1 (one). No more text on the right of screen.

Maybe one day I will figure out this forum.

[ECV56_Guevara]

Thanks a lot Oleg for the feedback
Well now I post in the correct thread:
What kind of interaction betwen ground units/objects could we expect (i.e. will be Driveable vehicles, human AAA, radar station, ground crew...?)?
thanks in advance

[Romanator21]

Originally Posted by Billy885

I dont know what game you all are playing but you can turn that off and on with what we have now. Its call "NoHudLog" if I remember right. Just change the 0 (zero) to a 1 (one). No more text on the right of screen.

Maybe one day I will figure out this forum.

Very witty Billy. Now, try to re-read what AkDavis was saying:

"I see that right side blue text "messages" are still present (but maybe only for development). If we will still have these messages in game, will they be customizable? I feel that messages like "enemy tank destroyed" are big immersion killers (and sort of pointless), but at the same time messages for certain aspects of engine management are very needed due to lack of direct tactile feedback in a sim."

Basically, You can turn off HUD-Log, but it becomes impossible to program a bomber's bomb sight, and difficult to know at what setting your radiator/throttle/P-pitch/mixture is.

Cheers!

[AdMan]

Geez, you guys are fiesty today.

Originally Posted by Billy885

I dont know what game you all are playing but you can turn that off and on with what we have now. Its call "NoHudLog" if I remember right. Just change the 0 (zero) to a 1 (one). No more text on the right of screen.

Maybe one day I will figure out this forum.

I've never had the desire to turn them off, so this doesn't really apply to me. Also I admit, I don't know every single customization in IL-2. Sorry.

Originally Posted by akdavis

Read again. Customize. Please explain how the ability to customize those messages denies you satisfaction.



Yup, and it gets rid of everything, including important engine messages. Either I have to play with arcade kill messages (apparently important for the gratification of people like AdMan) or none at all, unless I play with mods. I would love to play with no messages at all, but I can't (for example) tell the difference between 100% and 101% on my desktop throttle here.

customized messages would be cool if certain ones bother you. All engine gauges are emulated so you have all the information the actual pilot would have, if your going for complete immersion. Not sure how "tactile feedback" is going to tell you if your engine is at 100% or 101% . But whatever floats your boat. Seems like Oleg is thinking of everything with this bad boy.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Salute Oleg

Everything is superb. Absolutely wonderful.

Congratulations to you and your team. This game will be a revolution.

One question: Are there any plans for Force Feedback which focuses on the effects of flight?

By that I mean force feedback which is tuned to highlight the Buffeting, turbulence and other effects which can allow a player in front of a computer to get a sense of how well his aircraft is flying. Effects from firing the guns, or from being hit are not as important.

With this very obviously complex flight model, a system of feedback which can allow the player to get a 'seat of the pants' feel for how well he is flying and whether or not he is coming close to his stall point, etc. would be helpful.

I am sure you will make the trim status of an aircraft a real issue in this game.

There are now some mechanical devices which can be bought and which can translate sound into vibration feedback, but when they are sent a sound signal which includes engine noise, and other less important sounds, they are not very useful. Ideally they need to be sent a signal which focuses on the sounds which tell the player how well the aircraft is being flown. If your team can isolate the buffeting, turbulence, and other sounds relating to the aerodynamic status of the aircraft this would be helpful.

Here is one of the companies which manufacture these feedback devices:

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/gaming/index.htm

And of course, there are the normal force feedback joysticks.

Thanks again for your excellent work, everyone who has watched you for the last 12 years knows that you will produce in SOW, a brilliant game which will make even your masterpiece IL-2 take a step back into the shadows.