Friday 2009-10-23 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Mhhh...guys, the BOB was from June to September 1940. Summer. While waiting I recommend to some to read some books about this battle.

Yes, but the weather changed dramatically between those two times. At the start, most days were wet and overcast whilst spetember saw some of the hottest days in years. I'm not sure where you are from, but one would easily see the difference between this in the terrain in Britain; at the start of july (the battle began on the 10 of july, so not in june ) it would be a lot greener for starters and things would be getting browner by september as the grass started to wilt I have read a lot on the Battle, and whilst there wouldn't be much in way of seasons, I suggest you read more on the battle to get a feel for changing weather conditions which would affect the terrain

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Yes, but the weather changed dramatically between those two times. At the start, most days were wet and overcast whilst spetember saw some of the hottest days in years. I'm not sure where you are from, but one would easily see the difference between this in the terrain in Britain; at the start of july (the battle began on the 10 of july, so not in june ) it would be a lot greener for starters and things would be getting browner by september as the grass started to wilt I have read a lot on the Battle, and whilst there wouldn't be much in way of seasons, I suggest you read more on the battle to get a feel for changing weather conditions which would affect the terrain

besides isn't this engine going to expand beyond the BoB? Haven't been following the developemant as closely as others but from what I understand this is the foundation for further expansions like IL-2 was.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Yes, but the weather changed dramatically between those two times. At the start, most days were wet and overcast whilst spetember saw some of the hottest days in years. I'm not sure where you are from, but one would easily see the difference between this in the terrain in Britain; at the start of july (the battle began on the 10 of july, so not in june ) it would be a lot greener for starters and things would be getting browner by september as the grass started to wilt I have read a lot on the Battle, and whilst there wouldn't be much in way of seasons, I suggest you read more on the battle to get a feel for changing weather conditions which would affect the terrain

I understand you but I already have almost every book about the Battle of Britain myself, including the very thick british ones, lol. And have detailed weather reports for every day this year 1940.
I made a historical campaign in CFS3 using that data, and I plan to make it again in SOW BOB

I am from Germany btw.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

PS and yes I know it was bad weather in the beginning. Not enough though to make the leafs red

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

PS and yes I know it was bad weather in the beginning. Not enough though to make the leafs red

No LOL, but it might have made the terrain look greener...

[AdMan]

regardless, we all know creating alternate history is very popular in war simulation and IL2. At some point throughout the lifespan of BoB people are going to want to have all seasons and conditions at their disposal.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

I understand you but I already have almost every book about the Battle of Britain myself, including the very thick british ones, lol. And have detailed weather reports for every day this year 1940.
I made a historical campaign in CFS3 using that data, and I plan to make it again in SOW BOB

I am from Germany btw.

Ok, no probs I understand how my reference about changing seasons could be misinterpreted. I also know that the German (I can't spell the German) Luftshlact um England (?) I think began a bit earlier than RAF records and continued into the spring of 1941 in this case changing seasons could be included and we'd get a longer campaign

However, I think that changing terrain due to weather and natural/unnatural disasters would be extremely hard to model, but I'll leave that for oleg to comment on at somepoint

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Ok, no probs I understand how my reference about changing seasons could be misinterpreted. I also know that the German (I can't spell the German) Luftshlact um England (?) I think began a bit earlier than RAF records and continued into the spring of 1941 in this case changing seasons could be included and we'd get a longer campaign

However, I think that changing terrain due to weather and natural/unnatural disasters would be extremely hard to model, but I'll leave that for oleg to comment on at somepoint

"Luftschlacht", hehe. But you are right: we sometimes include the Blitz in our interpretation of the campaign. However, if we set Hitlers goal of Operation Sealion as a benchmark for interpretation, we agree that the "Battle of Britain" should be set from June (or May) up to September, when Hitler "postponed" Sealion. That would defenitly be only the summer season then.

[Bloblast]

Hi Oleg,

A few small requests for the Friday update:
(asking too early possibly)

-Would like to see formation of bombers Ju88 with new and weathered skins.
Really curious about this. I've seen screens of almost finished Ju88's 2 years ago, so should be possible I think.

-The WIP on the pilot.

-Ground crew activity after flight has landed. Thinking also of ambulances. And may be re-arming.

-Bf109E3 Hoping for this quality:

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Bloblast

-Would like to see formation of bombers Ju88 with new and weathered skins.
Really curious about this. I've seen screens of almost finished Ju88's 2 years ago, so should be possible I think.

You mean these?
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_03.jpg
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_07.jpg
http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Ju-88A-1_15.jpg

I love the detail. Gotta look awesome in the engine - I remember though, that Oleg told a few pages ago only a few planes made it into the current build. I guess the smaller planes had priority.

Originally Posted by Bloblast

-The WIP on the pilot.

-Ground crew activity after flight has landed. Thinking also of ambulances. And may be re-arming.

IIRC Oleg mentioned in this thread that pilots are not implemented completely, as they were working on human animations. So my guess is no groundcrews either, yet.

Originally Posted by Bloblast

-Bf109E3 Hoping for this quality

Like this?
http://www.stg2immelmann.de/media/1010/Blog/BoB109.jpg