In search of the grail...

[mazex]

Originally Posted by airmalik

Ok I'll bite. Here's what I think happened:

Oleg/IC had a contract with UBI to produce x sims over a number of years. BOB/SOW development started way before 2007 but the scope changed/increased and rather than abandon that series with UBI at the end of the contract which was approaching, Oleg decided to 'save' BOB for until after his contract with UBI expired. I think this is why we hear Oleg say that development on BOB didn't start until 2007 even though people saw and played demos before then. My feeling is that there is some dispute with UBI about this and SOW won't see the light of day until that's resolved.

Of course I don't have anything to back this up except my hunch. Hey, everyone here has a theory so why not me?

That's my theory too, but as all has been quiet on the western front since 2006 I hoped that someone had some link to a cyrillic page that mentions SoW or whatever the next title will be called. As it is now SimHQ is the official channel (and to some extent this IL2 forum), that feels a bit odd. Now and then bablefished stories pop up from some of the active russian forums (sukhoi.ru etc), so I hoped that somewhere on the russian 1C pages there would be information. As it is now I wait at every event (Leipzig, E3 etc) for some update from 1C (or even Ubi - we are only guessing that they are completely cut off). As long as 1C don't even show SoW in their lists of games in production, how could we get an update?

I do agree with you airmalik, there are probably lawyers involved here - let's just hope they don't mess this up. Some day I suppose that 1C will do a big bang presentation of the new title from the creator of IL2, and it will probably not be called Storm of War... Silly name anyway. Now that FSX is gone and X-plane behaves like an arcade game (especially regarding low speed physics) the scene is open to take a bite at the whole market I guess - so that's maybe what has caused the lack of information. Enter the "Aerospace Simulator" series by Maddox Games or something, with the first installation containing a BoB module, an aerobatics competition module and a modern civilian module where you can fly Cessnas and Pipers from modern day England and France

Just dreaming - thats all we can do while in the cold

/Mazex

[airmalik]

mazex, it'll be a very interesting day when/if we find out what actually happened. With all these years of anticipation, expectations are going to be very high but I'm confident Oleg's team won't disappoint.

In the meantime, I've briefly played BoP and XPlane. BoP is gorgeous to look at but I've found that I can't really get into a flightsim without TrackIR anymore. XPlane is fun to play but I must stay the flight dynamics leave a bit to be desired. They make a big deal of blade element simulation but I was disappointed that it doesn't seem to make a huge difference in flight dynamics. Still, it's fun playing with the wind and turbulence settings and watching the force vectors.

[tagTaken2]

Have you considered DCS: Black Shark, or RoF, both have full 6dof support.

I'd be going a bit spare if it wasn't for other sims, it looks like the wait for SoW is going to stretch out for another year.

[furbs]

Dolphin...why did you delete your post?

[HFC_Dolphin]

Originally Posted by furbs

Dolphin...why did you delete your post?

Cause though I posted something to help, this could be well seen in other way and I'm so tired to deal with suspicious shit.

Just forget it

[13th Hsqn Protos]

Originally Posted by furbs

Dolphin...why did you delete your post?

Roflololcoaster

Furbs if you only knew mate ......

[furbs]

have i missed something protos?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by tagTaken2

Have you considered DCS: Black Shark, or RoF, both have full 6dof support.

I'd be going a bit spare if it wasn't for other sims, it looks like the wait for SoW is going to stretch out for another year.

Have them both, and even though they have grail like features - the wine sticks in your throat from all the bugs.

RoF if given time enough time could be a classic, but now it's simply not finished. The FM:s are good - but it's rather empty single player wise and no join in progress makes online flying a pain... It would also be interesting to see the sniper AI in RoF take on the bomber gunners in IL2

Regarding Black Shark, Helis are not my cup of tea. At the other hand there are planes coming up soon in the Flanker Universe (as that's what it is - having enjoyed the same old black sea map in different flavors since 1995 ).

Still, like you say - they can put up some distraction while waiting

/Mazex

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by mazex

It would also be interesting to see the sniper AI in RoF take on the bomber gunners in IL2

I'm now cleaning the coffee off my monitor! LOL!!!!!!!!!

That is the funniest thing I've read in a week.

And so true.

It would be over quick though.

[tagTaken2]

Originally Posted by mazex

Have them both, and even though they have grail like features - the wine sticks in your throat from all the bugs.

RoF if given time enough time could be a classic, but now it's simply not finished. The FM:s are good - but it's rather empty single player wise and no join in progress makes online flying a pain... It would also be interesting to see the sniper AI in RoF take on the bomber gunners in IL2

Regarding Black Shark, Helis are not my cup of tea. At the other hand there are planes coming up soon in the Flanker Universe (as that's what it is - having enjoyed the same old black sea map in different flavors since 1995 ).

Still, like you say - they can put up some distraction while waiting

/Mazex

Fair enough. I never had the slightest interest in helis until BS, but it's virtually converted me, and I'm happy pootling around in RoF, having accepted that it's a WIP. But I have other games going too, and a limited number of hours to play each week. In fact I worry I won't have enough time to do justice to A-10 before SoW comes out. And then something like this comes along:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjgPZLvQQRs

not interested in point and click until I saw this.