HE162 Salamanda a how did it even work?

[juz1]

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

The Russian invasion would've worked out better if he went with Operation Sea Lion beforehand.

he did try...
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[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by juz1

he did try...

And failed.

[Dubbedinenglish]

Originally Posted by juz1

he did try...

The shift from military to civilian targets killed the chance for Sea Lion. If the Germans kept the focus on the RAF combined with the U-boat press a ground war in Great Britian would've been a quick win for the Germans.

Which in turn would've prevented operation Torch, thus keeping the full Nazi resources focused in Russia, rather than in three directions.

[mattmanB182]

Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

The shift from military to civilian targets killed the chance for Sea Lion. If the Germans kept the focus on the RAF combined with the U-boat press a ground war in Great Britian would've been a quick win for the Germans.

Which in turn would've prevented operation Torch, thus keeping the full Nazi resources focused in Russia, rather than in three directions.

Many people do not realize that Hitler could have easily done this. If he had some decent common sense he could have won the war.

[Swagger7]

The funny thing about the 162 being the "Hitler Youth Fighter" was that it wound up being a bitch to fly and needed an experienced pilot, which was really counter-productive to the whole cheap & expendable thing!

I'm not sure if Hitler could have won the war even if he pulled off Sea Lion. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, there weren't that many German soldiers waiting on the French coast by the time Russia was invaded. Probably far fewer than would have been needed to garrison Britain! The only real advantage Hitler would have gained from taking England would be protection from bombers. (Unless the presence of the Germans in the UK scared the Irish into the arms of the Allies) This is providing of course that the US still entered the war.

Also, in the real war, Germany didn't come near to wiping out the USSR. Even if they took Moscow, the Wehrmacht would still have only held 10% or so of Russian territory. And the Russians had that huge army in the east to protect against Japanese attack. They could have sent that into battle if the Germans had advanced any farther.

I think taking England would have certainly prolonged the war, but Hitler was pretty much screwed the moment he decided to f**k with the Russkies. You can't take on a country with that much more resources and people with much hope of winning.

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by mattmanB182

Many people do not realize that Hitler could have easily done this. If he had some decent common sense he could have won the war.

If he had some decent common sense? Dude, that guy was a genius. Guess he just lost track of it somewhere.
(No, I'm not pro-Hitler, it's just a fact he's brilliant, look at what he accomplished)

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

If he had some decent common sense? Dude, that guy was a genius. Guess he just lost track of it somewhere.
(No, I'm not pro-Hitler, it's just a fact he's brilliant, look at what he accomplished)

i agree he did accomplished a lot but he was also quite mad didnt he have some degenarative illness ?

im sure ive read some where he had huge mental problems ??

i could be wrong though so if i am ill stand corrected

[beaker126]

I was watching a special about snipers one night, and they were talking about how the OSS had a plan to send a two man sniper team to take out Hitler at the Wolf's Lair. It was cancelled because the the powers that be figured if Hitler was gone someone competent might take over. This was a little ways into the war, after some of his mental instabilites were starting to show.

[Swagger7]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

If he had some decent common sense? Dude, that guy was a genius. Guess he just lost track of it somewhere.
(No, I'm not pro-Hitler, it's just a fact he's brilliant, look at what he accomplished)

Um, no. Hitler wasn't that smart. All he really had was charisma. He accomplished most of what he did just by motivating people. The fact is that he was one of the most stupid military leaders of all time. He constantly interfered with his subordinates and forced them to do stupid things while ignoring their advice.

[Tentacle19]

I suggest reading Len Dieghton's " Fighter ". There is lots of great information in that book about the BoB. Where do you start? IF the 109s had drop tanks,thus extending their time over england who knows. If the Germans had bombed the spitfire factory? Even if they defeated the RAF, they had no proper landing craft to launch SeaLion let alone dealing with the Royal navy. ( although with no fighter cover how long does a navy last? ) Anyway, read "Fighter" its a great book.