Why can't you fully unlock stuff through single-player?

[Axe99]

Hey, horses for courses - I actually don't mind a little training m'self, means you can fly against whatever you like, whenever you like - unless you don't want to pay for XBL Gold, or aren't on the PSN, in which case you can only fly against about 2/3rds of the planes available :p.

[nudger1964]

speaking as a mediocre gamer at best, i have never understood why developers allow ugrades in multiplayer. You already have people who have got good at the game, then you give them even more advantage by giving them better gear. Dosnt make sense to me. I'm convinced its counter productive if you want more people to be using muliplayer long term. so many noobs just get frustrated and load another game instead as you just dont get a chance to learn the game better and get decent....so you end up with just the usual hardcore.
A single player training mode that actually helps people learn to fly better would be good....and i agree with O.P that all upgrades should be available in that.

[juz1]

PLUS the time element...an option to buy the unlocks instead of playing umpteen online games with planes and modes you don't really like sucks when you've got limited playtime (e.g. wife / kids/ career/ dogs/ mistress(es)/ too busy serial-killing hookers etc etc)
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[Axe99]

Originally Posted by nudger1964

speaking as a mediocre gamer at best, i have never understood why developers allow ugrades in multiplayer. You already have people who have got good at the game, then you give them even more advantage by giving them better gear. Dosnt make sense to me. I'm convinced its counter productive if you want more people to be using muliplayer long term. so many noobs just get frustrated and load another game instead as you just dont get a chance to learn the game better and get decent....so you end up with just the usual hardcore.

I agree with this entirely - I get online with the option of a Hurri II, BF-109 E or I-16, and I'm playing against Spitfire IXs, I-153's and whatnot else. At least a little note telling people to play through the campaign first so they don't get 'orribly pwned when they jump online . I think KZ2 did it well - you had classes and unlocks, but you can still have a great game and be competitive running around as the default.

[Lexandro]

Originally Posted by Axe99

I agree with this entirely - I get online with the option of a Hurri II, BF-109 E or I-16, and I'm playing against Spitfire IXs, I-153's and whatnot else. At least a little note telling people to play through the campaign first so they don't get 'orribly pwned when they jump online . I think KZ2 did it well - you had classes and unlocks, but you can still have a great game and be competitive running around as the default.

Why anyone would go to play online before playing the campaign is beyond me. How do you expect to be able to play the game against humans if you havent even bothered to play vs the AI? The MkIX and the other planes unlocked from playing campaign are easy enough to obtain. Its common sense that planes are unlocked via the campaign, theres no need for a note.

And the Hurricane is one of the best handling planes in the game and easily capable to taking out any other aircraft.

[Kamak86]

This thread is more or less just someting to complain about

[Axe99]

Originally Posted by Kamak86

This thread is more or less just someting to complain about

Far from it Kamak - it's more just to let Anton know that not everyone on consoles (far less than PC) are networked up, particularly given the PC-heritage of the devs. It's just a heads-up, and not a complaint for me as I love online and will be back there after this post .

And Lexandro, it's common practice for people to go online with games with an online component before completing the single campaign - we're long past the day of online being a tacked-on component to SP that people fool around with for a bit after finishing the main 'story' mode.

And not sure what mode you're flying the Hurri in, but it is _not_ one of the best planes in the game, just like in the actual World War! It's a combination fighter-bomber and was marginally outclassed by the early 109's in the Battle of Britain, let alone the late-model Spitfires and 109s. I love the Hurri to death, but as a 'battler' - as an air superiority fighter it's outclassed by many of the planes in the game .

And hey Stryker, look forward to seeing you online soon .

[tbtstt]

Bit late on this thread, but I'm in complete agreement, I actually started a thread requesting all the aircraft be unlocked for training mode last week.

It wouldn't change anything for those who game online (and the Trophy can be left for online unlocks if desired), but for those of us who prefer to play the game offline using the traning mode it means we can access everything.