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Old 09-12-2009, 03:11 PM
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This really sucks. Flying flight sim with a gamepad is STUPID.

I have an AV8R that is useless because of the rudder and not many days left to return it. An annoucment before I have to return this thing would be nice.

What would be best is if Sony/Microsoft, publishers, and developers would get their crap together and let the gamer choose how to control their games.
Gamepads aren't the best solution for every game except things like fighting, sports, and platform games.

Everything else:
1. First person shooters - mouse and keyboard/pad will always be better than gamepads - this is probably why you don't see pc/console cross play bc pc gamers on avergage would crush console players. The mouse controls that are out for consoles don't count because they have to emulate the stupid gamepad to work - which DOESN'T work well at all.
2. Flight sims - again, a proper stick flight control setup will crush a gamepad setup - just not on BOP due to the poor support - lack of rudder. As the pc market shrinks and console market expands - control options need to expand to meet the diverse needs.
3. Racing games - these suck on gamepads for a lot of people - but thankfully, console race fans haven't been ignored and they have many wheels available. IL2 BOP should at least give the same level of flight related options for sim fans. Including the playstation eye/natal head tracking support.
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:38 PM
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Fuzzy

Might as well return it while you can. When the announcement comes you can choose if you want to get it again. Your not using it anyway.

Pretty sure the announcement will come when 1C ready no poiint gettin worked up about it.
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:32 PM
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i think the pad is underestimate.
the problem here is, we dont have the skill with it. its just a signal input device. racing games are a prime example. The really fast guys tend to use controllers not wheels. a Wheel is great for someone who is intermediate level, but if you want to top the time sheets, youd better learn to master the controller.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:33 PM
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i think the pad is underestimate.
the problem here is, we dont have the skill with it. its just a signal input device. racing games are a prime example. The really fast guys tend to use controllers not wheels. a Wheel is great for someone who is intermediate level, but if you want to top the time sheets, youd better learn to master the controller.
Isn't it about, what is most enjoyable to use ?
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:35 PM
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i think the pad is underestimate.
the problem here is, we dont have the skill with it. its just a signal input device. racing games are a prime example. The really fast guys tend to use controllers not wheels. a Wheel is great for someone who is intermediate level, but if you want to top the time sheets, youd better learn to master the controller.
Agreed it is much easier to drift in Gran Turismo with controller than a wheel, but a wheel is so much funner, it's all about realism and personal preference. I love my Logitech G-Force Pro!
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:18 PM
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Anton hasn't been around much lately
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:27 PM
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Anton hasn't been around much lately
Maybe he got overwhelmed by the amount of whining on these forums since release, and went off and got drunk

Seriously though, yes there are a number of issues.. but some of them must've been repeated dozens of times in the last week, and Anton has even mentioned they are looking to fix some of the multiplayer bugs already, plus this joystick announcement. Perhaps he shouldnt have said there would be an announcement soon (especially not suggesting the next day), maybe they are looking at a number of issues reported on here, and don't want to announce anything until they know exactly what will be changed, which cant be quick to do with the development and QA processes to go through.
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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Don't know how many have seen this, but this is the update thus far.. albeit without a date yet :

http://forum.yuplay.com/index.php?showtopic=13
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:23 PM
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This really sucks. Flying flight sim with a gamepad is STUPID.

I have an AV8R that is useless because of the rudder and not many days left to return it. An annoucment before I have to return this thing would be nice.

What would be best is if Sony/Microsoft, publishers, and developers would get their crap together and let the gamer choose how to control their games.
Gamepads aren't the best solution for every game except things like fighting, sports, and platform games.

Everything else:
1. First person shooters - mouse and keyboard/pad will always be better than gamepads - this is probably why you don't see pc/console cross play bc pc gamers on avergage would crush console players. The mouse controls that are out for consoles don't count because they have to emulate the stupid gamepad to work - which DOESN'T work well at all.
2. Flight sims - again, a proper stick flight control setup will crush a gamepad setup - just not on BOP due to the poor support - lack of rudder. As the pc market shrinks and console market expands - control options need to expand to meet the diverse needs.
3. Racing games - these suck on gamepads for a lot of people - but thankfully, console race fans haven't been ignored and they have many wheels available. IL2 BOP should at least give the same level of flight related options for sim fans. Including the playstation eye/natal head tracking support.
Dude the AV8R is a really good stick the rudder needs to be fixed but it is way better then the thrustmaster. Why, do you ask? well because the Thrustmaster has issues. you cant really look around with it i guess its a trade off yeah you can use the rudder the way it was intended but you cant look around you. with the AV8R you can still use the rudder but its either full left or full right but you can still use it and you are able to look around and spot targets.
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