how are these 109s turns 180 with out penalties?

[GF_Mastiff]

@doogles I have flown them and they don't lose any air speed; they fly through like no resistance at all to the air.

So I'm to beleave that we can make those manuavers just like in Red Tails. Such BS!

[Flanker35M]

S!

Suggested reading. Robert L. Shaw : Fighter Combat - Tactics and Maneuvering. I have the book and has nice info on preserving E and hiding E-State from the opponent.

[GF_Mastiff]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technolo...191114399.html
Might as well be flying against these.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

@doogles I have flown them and they don't lose any air speed; they fly through like no resistance at all to the air.

So I'm to beleave that we can make those manuavers just like in Red Tails. Such BS!

Whatever you are using, i'd like to have the recipe

The Rotol Hurri and the 109 are so close performance-wise, that i feel very confident in both fighting the other one!

Your perception clearly seems to be biased, imo.

[Codex]

Can I just ask Mastif ... we're you flying against a human pilot or AI?

[Peaveywolf]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

@doogles I have flown them and they don't lose any air speed; they fly through like no resistance at all to the air.

So I'm to beleave that we can make those manuavers just like in Red Tails. Such BS!

I have flown them and they do. Climb to steeply and you lose airspeed, push down too harshly and you red out. Pull up harshly and you go into blackout. The Brit machines are more susceptible is all. The reason we won out in the battle of britain was because we had better pilots with more reason to defend our Isle.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

@doogles I have flown them and they don't lose any air speed; they fly through like no resistance at all to the air.

So I'm to beleave that we can make those manuavers just like in Red Tails. Such BS!

Post a video. Prove that they don't lose any air speed. Prove that you can fly the red tails maneuver.

Anyone can turn at constant airspeed (it's called a sustained turn, durr.) The question is how many G's one can pull. Until you prove it you're just another exaggerating whiner.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Prove that it didn't lose power or energy.

Prove it.

Otherwise, shut up.

This guy's favorite theme the "übermesser"
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=27028&page=3

I like Reflected's post: "typical thing in flight sims: you got shot down by a better pilot? Blame the FMs!''

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Make sure the energy measureing tool you used is calibrated for the 109 variant your testing prior to testing..

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Prove that it didn't lose power or energy.

Prove it.

Otherwise, shut up.

Real classy guys. I think it safe to say we have seen the AI do all kinds of ridiculous stuff and aren't subject to blackouts or red-outs. Tell me Ace, what tool do I use to measure the triple barrel rolls that stop on a dime and reverse and barrel roll again to know that they are not right?

Gotta love the fans, always willing to help a fellow member.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Force10

Real classy guys. I think it safe to say we have seen the AI do all kinds of ridiculous stuff and aren't subject to blackouts or red-outs. Tell me Ace, what tool do I use to measure the triple barrel rolls that stop on a dime and reverse and barrel roll again to know that they are not right?

Gotta love the fans, always willing to help a fellow member.

You're using the AI as a benchmark for performance? Everyone knows the AI cheats.