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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 06-26-2009, 02:20 AM
Marchochias Marchochias is offline
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That price is laughable.

Does anybody know what the control layout is for the gamepads? I'm hoping for an option to have left stick:pitch/roll, and right stick:rudder/throttle.

I've never used a flight stick before so i think i'm better off sticking with a good old controller.
360 controllers are certainly better for flying than standard mouse and keyboard (which is why joysticks were almost required for flight sims on PC really).

Still, joysticks are really easy and fast to learn. It's very intuitive, or at least I thought so when I used em on PC way back.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:31 AM
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Guess I'll be starting with a controll pad. Cant believe that my flying skill would suffer that much without a stick. But then again depends on hoe difficult the simm really is. But never really needed a stick unless using a lot of radar controlls and missle selects.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:52 AM
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just picked up an aviator in JB hifi (Cheltenham)...was hard to find down under

so far...nice stick, and 4 times cheaper than the HORI-

now to velcro the base to my desk...
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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Guess I'll be starting with a controll pad. Cant believe that my flying skill would suffer that much without a stick. But then again depends on hoe difficult the simm really is. But never really needed a stick unless using a lot of radar controlls and missle selects.
For a simulator a pad will be hard to fly without a ton of filtering .

Think about it, your moving a 2ft long control column with a 1cm long stick with maybe 2cm of deflection.

If you move that stick from centre to lock your moving the entire control surface's range of movement quicker than any pilot could move it and with no feedback (at 300mph most WW2 fighter control columns will need 20lbs to 40lbs of pressure to move the ailerons or elevator) which in any WW2 plane will cause a stall if not a spin. This is the problem of making a sim work with a control pad.

Even doing that on a 1ft long flight stick (try it out in IL2, you'll stall a plane most of the time ramming the stick from lock to lock) will still cause problems but at least the range of defelction you have with a stick means you can make gradual and more controlled movements and filtering and stick settings are able to be used to make a meaningful effect.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:38 AM
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At least the thumbsticks on the controllers of the two current-gen consoles have 10-bit precision.

That said, I agree entirely: If you fly a sim, use a proper stick. Period.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:58 PM
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Wish there was some way to plug USB flightsticks into the 360. I have a Cougar and can't see spending more money on another HOTAS just for Xbox.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:49 PM
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Wish there was some way to plug USB flightsticks into the 360. I have a Cougar and can't see spending more money on another HOTAS just for Xbox.
This confuses me. Xbox is M$ and pc's are M$ and they don't even give you this option. Stupid.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:52 PM
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It's not really all that confusing. An Xbox is not a PC. You can stick any USB controller into an Xbox 360 for more or less exactly the same reasons you can't do so on a PS3.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:39 PM
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This confuses me. Xbox is M$ and pc's are M$ and they don't even give you this option. Stupid.
It's because the PC joystick doesn't have software to run on a 360 operating system, only on a PC.

Same reason a program designed to work on Windows XP might not work on Windows Vista.

Also, if Microsoft DID make it possible for any USB device to work with a 360, you better believe people would be plugging in all sorts of cheating devices. Even using a USB mouse in COD4 or some other shooter would be an unfair advantage.
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