oleg, you better hurry, RoF is releasing a ww-2 sim next

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by zapatista

the main problem i see is that RoF really lowers the standard of what we expect from a decent flightsim, however good it looks and might fly. add to that a limited customer base for flight sims in general, and it can reduce the rapidity that olegs new product can penetrate the market. we have been incredibly lucky with oleg's products in the last years it seems, and if this RoF crap is going to be considered normal in the new future as a game, we'r all in trouble as flightsimmers.

The problem is ............ we have been spoilt by Oleg & 1c in the past with free updates, aircraft, maps and ground objects.

The Author of IL2 has surpassed any other genre of flight sim support wise and I hope it continues.

As for Rise of Flight........... I loose interest half way through saying its title.

[Rama]

Can't believe the amount of false rumors and crap information I read in this thread....

Neoqb has no intention to developp a WWII sim in the near future (in the next years).
The actual map isn't small by any standard, and took more than 2.5 years to developp, and building the planes and objects took a lot of time also.
Neoqb is now working hard to developp new planes and new features for their game.

AND... There's absolutly NO competition between ROF and SOW:BOB. Most of RoF purchaser will, lile myself, buy SoW:BOB as soon it will be released.

Good Job Zapatista, trying to build a useless "sim fight" on lies and mean false rumors!!!!

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Rama

Can't believe the amount of false rumors and crap information I read in this thread....

poor rama, you really have trouble understanding the world, dont you

Originally Posted by Rama

Neoqb has no intention to developp a WWII sim in the near future (in the next years).

there you are clearly wrong again, you dont know your facts. but as usually with you, dont let that stop you, just be rude and aggressive enough and pretend you know everything, that should be about enough for your level of logic

Originally Posted by Rama

The actual map isn't small by any standard, and took more than 2.5 years to developp,

if they only have a few people working for them, then the length of time it takes has little to do with an indication of the finished product. as a single map they provide, it is a very monotonous scenery that is essentially the same all throughout the map. simple put you can just make one small section, then multiply it with little difficulty and quickly make it larger with a few minor changes. there are no mountains, no different countries with different trees and foliage, no deserts, islands, etc... or didnt you spot any of that ?

Originally Posted by Rama

Good Job Zapatista, trying to build a useless "sim fight" on lies and mean false rumors!!!!

you poor thing, you really think people come here just to deliberately hassle you ? do you also think the whole universe spins around you maybe ? o what a troubled life you lead !

i'll try and help you out a little so you find these forums less confusing, read OP text, make sure you read what they actually wrote, and dont substitute your own confusion

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Hi zapatista. Was wondering where you found this information out, or is it something you are taking a wild guess at?

"the problem however is that they ask full price for the hollow shell it is now, and you will pay more like 25$ for each next plane you have to buy"

Could you show me where neoqb have stated or quoted this price please? I find it hard to believe they will be charging this much for one add on aircraft, but if you can show me otherwise then please do.

Thanks.

[Rama]

Originally Posted by zapatista

poor rama, you really have trouble understanding the world, dont you

Much less than YOU have...

there you are clearly wrong again, you dont know your facts. but as usually with you, dont let that stop you, just be rude and aggressive enough and pretend you know everything, that should be about enough for your level of logic

I don't know everything, but since I worked with Gennadish, then neoqb as benevolent helper since almost the start of the devlopment of this sim, I know a little bit more than you do about it.

as a single map they provide, it is a very monotonous scenery that is essentially the same all throughout the map. simple put you can just make one small section, then multiply it with little difficulty and quickly make it larger with a few minor changes

You don't know what you're talking about.... the map is large, have you flown above it from one end to the other???
No... you're just assuming (wrongly) and presenting it lile the "truth", it's a typical volontary twist of the reality, and the clear show of mean intentions.

The map use an accurate elevation model over the whole area, and was developped using topomaps from 1900 (that I provided to the dev), who spent a lot of time digitizing the road network, the railways network, etc... with accurate positions.
That's the way neoqb works for every part of the sim... there's absolutly no way they will quickly and cheaply do a WWII sim or whatever fantasm coming directly from your twisted imagination.
You're only spreading false rumors with bad intentions... you're a lier and a Troll.
... and everybody will know it when they will be able to try the demo.

you poor thing, you really think people come here just to deliberately hassle you ? do you also think the whole universe spins around you maybe ? o what a troubled life you lead !

As usual, you're talking about yourself...

[Eries]

IMHO ....Wasn't Zapatista one of the alias's used by the infamous Sgt Slaughter? I think I recall that name from the list that was posted over at Hyperlobby....

[SlipBall]

I think some of you are going over board on this...we don't need another zoo here

[proton45]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I think some of you are going over board on this...we don't need another zoo here

Ha-Ha-Ha... too late. These days I find the "zoo" to be a bit more interesting.



By the way, a more effective price-point for add-on aeroplanes would be $4.99, not $5.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

The problem is ............ we have been spoilt by Oleg & 1c in the past with free updates, aircraft, maps and ground objects.

The Author of IL2 has surpassed any other genre of flight sim support wise and I hope it continues.

As for Rise of Flight........... I loose interest half way through saying its title.

You are right...and by the looks of things (even with our infrequent up-dates have been) Oleg is planning on giving us value for our dollar in the future. We know he has been working on 3rd party development tools...this in itself suggests a vibrant modding community. The ROF people will have to work pretty hard to equal the work (& options) Oleg has been talking about.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

The problem is ............ we have been spoilt by Oleg & 1c in the past with free updates, aircraft, maps and ground objects.

The Author of IL2 has surpassed any other genre of flight sim support wise and I hope it continues.

We will go by other business model with SoW. I would be too hard with more complex in development and time consuming to go with so many free updates with aircraft and other objects. However we will keep some part as free updates with new content and of course fixes if neccessary. But general line - partially open architecture of the sim that to get all these third party developers to work officially, but not modding with stolen(hacked) source code.

Probably we also will sell some additions. But general line of all Sow series - second sim we may play stand alone or install in the first one. Then the third sim play alone, or install in the merged already first + second sim in a series, etc...
By this way we will build again the flight sim of all times... Like a collection of WWII and some other near than time eras (from us. From third party commersial of free addons we may see WWI or 2025 year aircraft or even complete sims. From third party in time we may see controlable u-boats and ships, tanks or sport cars on a track...)

At least I hope and no one hard point never stop me before I release my thoughts in software (almost would say in metal...)