suggested tactics yak3 vs fw190

[KG26_Alpha]

Didn't the unresolved problem of the ply wood coming off at high speed stop it from being a " truly excellent plane".

[Woke Up Dead]

Was it really an unresolved problem? I got the impression that the Soviet way was to rush badly needed planes out and iron out the kinks in later production batches. So the first few hundred planes would have problems like the one you mentioned, then the next few hundred would have them improved, then the next few hundred would be perfected, then the next major model of the plane would appear and the cycle would be repeated.

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Was it really an unresolved problem? I got the impression that the Soviet way was to rush badly needed planes out and iron out the kinks in later production batches. So the first few hundred planes would have problems like the one you mentioned, then the next few hundred would have them improved, then the next few hundred would be perfected, then the next major model of the plane would appear and the cycle would be repeated.

Exactly. Poor quality management was intrinsic problem (or feature) of all Soviet industries, aircraft manufacturing including. War years added new challenges as drain of qualified labor force and extremely high pressure of party leadership.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by dimlee

Exactly. Poor quality management was intrinsic problem (or feature) of all Soviet industries, aircraft manufacturing including. War years added new challenges as drain of qualified labor force and extremely high pressure of party leadership.

though they were not alone, the American built Hispanos speak for themselves, as does the British Typhoon. And while the early war planes of the Japanese and German/Italian may have been up to specs, they soon could not afford the time to produce quality products, see engine problems both on He177 and Ki-84.
And I''m sure those are only a few examples of many. And we should not forget that the Russians had neither the time nor the labour nor the resources to afford quality products early on - and the heavy influence of politics on production did not help IMHO.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

And I''m sure those are only a few examples of many. And we should not forget that the Russians had neither the time nor the labour nor the resources to afford quality products early on - and the heavy influence of politics on production did not help IMHO.

Early to mid-war Soviet, and late war Japanese and German aircraft should be far less reliable than they are currently. Ditto for some US-built aircraft (e.g., the Brewster B-239, B-339, B-29), and some UK and Soviet aircraft.

Of course, introducing any sort of unreliability or performance reduction into the the game might be self-defeating. For campaign or stand-alone missions, most players will just hit "quit" and refly the mission if they experience an equipment failure. It might be better to factor in unreliability into number of planes flyable for a particular squadron in a campaign.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Early to mid-war Soviet, and late war Japanese and German aircraft should be far less reliable than they are currently. Ditto for some US-built aircraft (e.g., the Brewster B-239, B-339, B-29), and some UK and Soviet aircraft.

Of course, introducing any sort of unreliability or performance reduction into the the game might be self-defeating. For campaign or stand-alone missions, most players will just hit "quit" and refly the mission if they experience an equipment failure. It might be better to factor in unreliability into number of planes flyable for a particular squadron in a campaign.

Totally in agreement.

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

... engine problems both on He177 and Ki-84.

Well, the He-177 actually got MORE reliable over time DB606 engine (He-177A1, first 15 A3) was a disaster, but DB610 was much better. It wasnt exceptionally reliable, true, but all major problems of the DB606 were fixed. It was still much more reliable than for example the soviet VK107.