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12-31-2008, 11:02 AM
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Here, I will tell you what what I expirienced; - the most common is invisible plane, bounced with tracers coming out of thin air, my squad buddy saw no plane, other example idiot in invisible bomber spawns on the field and shoots planes around with turrets... - FM switching a variations to the theme, personally saw a P51 I could easily catch but couldn't outturn or outclimb no matter what, he tied a few of us until we applied anti-Spitfire tactics lol - not to mention how many people fly with adjusted gunsights, mirrors, 6DOF and cool stuff like that. As you can notice the above things were obviously made by amateurs, I'm afraid to think what someone good with Java could do... Also I only responded here because Urufu sugested there are no cheats and we make things up, that's unacceptable. As for hanging with wrong or right people this comment Bercat you did not need, was rather ruthless thing to say IMO. |
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12-31-2008, 05:45 PM
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As for the listed "cheats" above, the invisible planes were a problem long before the mods were out, a bad patch sequence causes this not cheaters (though it's possible it's a cheater you cannot hold it up as evidence since there is a common benign explaination for this phenomenon). There is no way to prove there was FM switching involved in you P51 incident, I see threads all the time where someone states they cannot catch a particular variant they think they should be able to catch, before the mods came out! Gunsites, mirrors and 6DOF are all admittedly debatable but no more so than trackIR, rudder pedals and who has the power to run better graphics than others (situational awareness etc). Look, I'm not saying there are not valid concerns about mods etc, I'm just saying the mass hysteria and doom and gloom are unjustified, as are the insults people are posting about mod users. If you feel that the cracking of the code is something you do not want to have anything to do with then thats fine, good on ya, but don't slander those with a different opinion and certainly don't spread lies and misinformation about the mods themselves just because you disagree with the way this started. Feel free to argue all day about the root of the issue and what it is that you disagree with, the cracking of olegs IP, but there's no need to sling mud and to take the topic to ridiculous area's that have nothing to do with reality or the cracking of the code. |
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12-31-2008, 09:04 PM
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So, this is the result's of a hacked then modded game. A divided community, a dislike of one another based on their stated beliefs. I think it much better to leave a great sim like IL2 alone, in the first place. Then we will only hate those that shoot us down
 ...no going back now, enjoy it the way that you perfer
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12-31-2008, 10:35 PM
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I dont dislike anyone here... What I dislike is people saying that they don't think mods in and of themselves are cheats.. yet in just about every sentence that has the word mod in it cheats are close behind.. and the relation of the two words by these postedrs insinuates that the two are equal and they arent. In the bigger scheme of things.. my having Redtail skins as the defaults for my mustangs, or having a custom splash screen, or even the 6DoF mod.. constitutes no discernable advantage over someone who does not have these things. With the 6DoF I mean if I am flying against someone who has TIR4 w/o 6Dof and I have the 6DoF.. there is not much difference in the sense that the action is fluid... and since both users are constantly moving me being able to glimpse the tip of a wing from behind a spar means little.
This thread is a waste of time because everyone here has their views. I used to feel the same way as many of the anti modders and it was only when the potential fears that I had were not realized .. from the quality of the mods to the proliferation of cheats that I decided to try them and I am glad I did. I have purchased enough copies of this series through out the past 7 years.. and I am talking more than 10 here at full retail price mind you, except for the last 2 copies of 46.. they were $20... if you add up the entire series and include gifts spares etc.... Not to mention the hundreds spent on upgrading my rig to use the software... then factoring in the time spent actually using it, promoting it, because I do... all the time. I have most of the videos on my laptop... not to mention about 200 screenshots... If I get into the copies I actually sold when I either worked retail at my local Best Buy or while just browsing in a store that sold the product and saw someone checking out the flight sims... I think I have more than earned the right to choose from something that is available to me... that is not taking money from Oleg's pocket. These mods are not being sold... no one is making money off the work... or taking food off 1C's collective tables... I don't know why 4.09 was not released .. perhaps it does have just about all to do with the mods.. I don't know and Oleg isn't talking... but these mods have been an improvement to my enjoyment of the sim.... and I don't knowingly associate with cheaters... so if you are against mods.. fine.. if you are against cheats.... that's fine too... but mod=cheat does not compute with me. Cheaters cheat... Last edited by Bearcat; 12-31-2008 at 11:11 PM. |
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12-31-2008, 11:15 PM
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I did mention, "however self justified"... didn't I?
Cheaters cheat and hackers steal |
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12-31-2008, 11:29 PM
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And whiners whine and trolls troll....
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12-31-2008, 11:39 PM
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So just why has this all started again?
Pretty much everything posted here is in the same thread from a year ago,with maybe a little less abuse (so far) Most peoples opinions have changed,some have not.But other than that,it is all EXACTLY the same! This will run for a hundred pages,get more and more abusive,and in the end everyone will be back where they started. Pathetic. |
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01-01-2009, 01:04 AM
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yeah so wich one are you? |
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01-01-2009, 10:24 AM
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and like i just said all of these "new customers" coming to the sim becuse of the mods are not actually buying the sim the same way you or i did over the years....they're getting it for free. So i just can't help but wondering why in the hell you keep going to bat for these ppl. |
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01-01-2009, 10:39 AM
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