P-51D into DCS Sims.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I'm not buying an entire jet sim just to have one perfectly modeled P 51.

I do understand that it is a great virtual aircraft, but there is a LOT more to a great sim than just having all the right levers and knobs working.

Besides, I have no use for modern BVR jet combat.

Not my cup of tea.

You don't have to.

DCS World is free, and you just buy the P51 module to plug into it.

[ElAurens]

How much for the P51?

And other than fly around and shoot modern targets, what can I do with it?

[1984]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Too bad DCS has no correct map, or any other anything for a proper scenario with the P-51 and D9.

i understand you, but, it's example of technology - if not mistaken p-51 it's first plane with piston-engine, AFM and just high level of modelling, in real combat sim - little part of famous history, and money-making etc, so, personally i even seriously not think about maps, planes etc for something like DCS il-2...

in fact, personally i suspect that now could be hidden agrement between 1C and DCS or it's just understanding of situation, without agreements/words... although, unlikely...

and about this real perspective, i read what have problems with documents for soviet planes, but, if DCS will do yak-9p or la-9/11, well, it's great and with p-51, f-86 and mig-15 it's could be little variant of war 50-53, or real battles of cold war, or just hypothetical scenario usa vs ussr (in fact, without competition DCS could use this for advertising a la MG earlier - first time, p-51 vs la-9, AFM, what if etc etc etc... but i hope no... or, no matter)...

but and now, with p-51/fw 190d, it' could be hypothetical scenario usa vs ussr'45, i think, this is not news...

well, DCS legends it's just LITTLE dream for some peoples, without context and for serious money ie mainly for real lovers of old aviation...

(what i'm talking about, i even not playing in p-51 sorry for this "explaining" and sometimes even "advertising", if that, just trying to ponder about...)

Originally Posted by fruitbat

...but it will offer us the best dogfight between those 2 planes there's ever been, by a huge margin.

yep... although, p-51 and d-9 are too similar in they performances, so, maybe, better do famous and most mass fw 190 a-8 (later it's could be a-7?, a-9, Fs and Gs), but, maybe not... well, no matter, because d-9 already in progress...

[1984]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

How much for the P51??

now $9.99...

and here little about "when?" we could see fw 190 as AI...

well, at this moment, it's will be something like "playable film from gun camera of p-51"...

[Asheshouse]

I am confused.
What exactly has this thread got to do with IL2 Mods?

[1984]

don't know...

all knows that AI d-9 will be in 1.2.4 ie, most likely, in this week? and by the way, Yo-Yo said that most likely in release will be 2 variants, with and without mw-50... and that's interesting, which weapons and ammobelts for fw 190 d-9 will be in realease... although, if no b-17s and yaks/il2s...

[horseback]

Just got this thing a few weeks ago; it took me about four plus hours to map out all my controls (I went a bit nuts with the axis assignments--I used my CH Quadrant, my Saitek Quad, the Saitek Trim Wheel, the CH Pro Throttle, and last but not least, an old gameport CH F-16 stick with a USB convertor that allows me to use all three axes for trim and four [out of the ten] buttons for fuel and radiator controls). I also used a Logitech Rumblepad as a button bay and get the FFB effect by strapping down on my keyboard drawer with my CH Combatstick.

The DCS sim apparently has limitless controller sensing--I'm in heaven, and I'll probably have to chart out my button assignments a few more times before I have everything in the right place, and I'll fiddle around a bit with using the X52 and Microsoft FFB to see if they are better than the CH stick (not likely, the Combatstick has what I think is ideal buttonology). BTW, I created Word files with pictures of the CH stick and throttles (Pro and Quad) with boxes for entering the button & axis assignments. I found them very handy with Il-2 and now this, and am happy to share them with anyone who is interested. It wouldn't be that hard to insert a photo of the other controllers and add text boxes for them as well.

It took three hours to get the thing into the 'air'; I needed to fiddle with the rudder axis curves to keep the rudder from flipping back and forth too far & groundlooping, but once I got the feel for keeping it straight down the runway, it was up into the air for about two hours of play. Trim is a bit touchy, not least because I kept forgetting where my elevator trim was and screwing up the aileron trim in the process. When I finally exited the flight, it was dark outside, and I hadn't noticed! At the rate I'm progressing, it should be mid September before I can land safely, but I probably won't notice.

cheers

horseback

[klem]

horseback consider DTweak (google is your friend) for adjusting the sensitivity of trims. In effect you can make them less sensitive by making the whole rotation only move the trims by a lot less, mine move about 50%. It means you don't get full trim range but I've never needed full trim anyway.