I dont care what the Whiners say...

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

It's all a bit drama-queeny to suggest the whole genre hinges on the continued support of a flawed franchise, never mind one game. And I dont think it is true. Or if it *is* true then perhaps the genre deserves to wither, if this is its best hope ...

No, this merely tells you the levels of personal dependency involved. Once you are weened-off the need to make this game the be-all and end-all, then you can make more rational.
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The only weird personal dependency in here is the rather disturbing dependency of some to blabber on and on and on about how bad this sim is and how deranged people must be to like it. Those of us who enjoy CoD, warts and all, have a positive reason to be here and discuss the sim and talk about the latest AMAZING on-line battle we've flown in on ATAG. The others... - Well maybe they've run out of flies they can pull the wings off...

Freycinet said:

Sorry, just out of curiosity: if that is your opinion why are you even in this forum? If I felt like that about CoD I'd never bother to join a forum about the sim. So I'm honestly just curoius.

Probably for the same reason I still dip in occasionally. That is to say, because our interest does not prevent us from making clear-headed judgements about the game and its release, and history. And despite all that, we hold an interest. But no, we probably wont join in with the euphoria of a working patch and collective amnesia and gratefulness that has suddenly erupted after, what, a year and a half?

Also, there is an element of irony in your post, in that you have often posted in other forums which are ear-marked as expressly for criticising CLOd, or at least discussing it rationally. That forum (I am treading carefully, but you know which one I mean) is one where you stated you would not post. So, maybe best to de-polish the black pot and kettle?

Now that the mods have recently come out and explicitly stated they would promote only positive reaction (no surprise, this has been the case all along, at least now they're upfront about it...) an dby implication, crack down on critcism...people seem to think they have carte blanchs to attack the 'whiners'. And maybe, here in this forum, they do. But I'm sure a few of us will occasionally reply until it's our turn to be booted. Which will also happen, as it has been steadily happening for some time.

Basically, a semi-successful patch to get the game to a near working status (albeit with no offline game to speak of, or dynamic weather/campaign etc) after a year and a half...and the balloons and bunting are out. Grateful for small mercies, perhaps.

Perhaps if there was a half-decent game modelling the same era, this place would have emptied a long time ago. It depends on what you expect, and what you will settle for, I guess.

And note, I've managed to steer clear of your own *very* colourful history with this game. It might be wise not to play the elder statesman - some of us do have memories.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

And note, I've managed to steer clear of your own *very* colourful history with this game. It might be wise not to play the elder statesman - some of us do have memories.

As if I have something to hide?! Heh...

What I'd go quietly about would be spending countless hours in forums slagging a sim I detested (tho weirdly never having tried it). Happily I'm not in such a pathetic situation...

[MB_Avro_UK]

This sim has matured and grown to be the best. And I always expected this.

The usual critics have nothing left to say. But they whine. They have been proved wrong but can't admit it to themselves or anyone else.

Some people live to criticise, others live for life.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[LoBiSoMeM]

The sim now is fun even in MP, with lots of pilots online and big maps.

We have some bugs, need work in engine aiming the next title, but now the sim engine looks like devs can solve all minor graphics bugs, deliver more and stable FPS, and can work in important missing features, like better weather system.

We can have good experiences in CloD until the next title now. And for sure we'll have a more finished product soon.

I'll buy the next title. My faith in this team is restored.

Bye!

PS: Now 1C can do some marketing work to promote CloD again. We need new reviews of this sim NOW! It's another thing! I'm glad to be part of "beta testers" team of this product, and i'll be proud of BoM, for sure!

[Hood]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Forums are for discussions. Posters are not expected to be world class journalists or experts of simulation air combat.

Members share and discuss things that relate to their interest in COD.

So, yeah... straight talk for you. There are a lot of well educated and competent people that enjoy this forums. Your high minded rhetoric can definitely be dealt with by many here. SO, it isn't a best course of chit chat to defame anyone.

In fact, we have some members than can create so much verbal heat for you, that you will feel it and see it in your very red face. You can look in a mirror and see it.

Defame? Who's defaming anyone? If a thread is dumb then it's dumb regardless of who started it. The original post was provocative and got a response.

Verbal heat? They'd have to shout pretty loud. And "leaning" from a moderator doesn't impress me I'm afraid. Especially not when it's a threat dressed up as a "polite" warning.

Hood

ps. And for the record I will also be buying BoM on release. Because I'm a fan.

pps. I'm out of this thread as there is nothing more to say, but I won't be cowed by mods who take sides rather than being impartial.

[MadTommy]

Enjoying the sim for sure.

Sequel: Pre-purchase, not a chance. Buy it on release day, no way. Buy it if it gets half decent reviews, very likley.

(if it is some sort of MMO with monthly payment system... i won't touch it, not that i expect it to be so)

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Hood

And how many were playing IL2? More than both together I'd bet.

El, what a dumb thread; like who cares what you'll do - it won't influence anyone.

We're all flight sim fans here and if it fulfills its potential we'll all be happy.

Hood

Originally Posted by Hood

Defame? Who's defaming anyone? If a thread is dumb then it's dumb regardless of who started it. The original post was provocative and got a response.

Verbal heat? They'd have to shout pretty loud. And "leaning" from a moderator doesn't impress me I'm afraid. Especially not when it's a threat dressed up as a "polite" warning.

Hood

ps. And for the record I will also be buying BoM on release. Because I'm a fan.

pps. I'm out of this thread as there is nothing more to say, but I won't be cowed by mods who take sides rather than being impartial.

"Defaming" is not a word. I think you mean "Defamation".

Pretty rich from a guy that names himself after a Battle cruiser that was comisioned in 1916 and was out of date when it was sank by the German Battleship Bismarck... Just becasue some ones being positive about the game doesnt mean you have to take a dump on them.... - the Steam patch is out remember!

Lighten up Eeyore!

Regards,
Farber.

[ATAG_Old_Canuck]

I wonder if Oleg still reads some of this stuff for comic value. Hey Oleg, do you miss us? As you can see not much has changed.

[CWMV]

Still useless offline.
*sigh-fires up IL2 DBW*