Beating a dead horse

[ElAurens]

[1.APU_Hubal]

There will not be any SOW and any further Oleg combat sim. I think that the problems are:

- technical (hardware & software) changes,
- too advanced expectations and criticism from the community,
- publisher/distributor money&time pressure,
- other (as always).

That all, and maybe more, drove Oleg to the decision to give up.
I wish it is not true...

[ElAurens]

Hubal, you are only speculating, like all the other hand wringing whiners here.

In short sir, you are clueless.

Be sure.

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Hubal, you are only speculating, like all the other hand wringing whiners here.

In short sir, you are clueless.

Be sure.

Well i would imagine that Hubal is letting us know is views on which you clearly disagree. However unless you have some updates or news regarding SOW then i fail to see how Hubal is anymore clueless than you are. Please feel free to enlighten me.

[crazyivan1970]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Well i would imagine that Hubal is letting us know is views on which you clearly disagree. However unless you have some updates or news regarding SOW then i fail to see how Hubal is anymore clueless than you are. Please feel free to enlighten me.

Well, Oleg is not one of those people who will stop development without letting community know, be sure. A lot of people speculating, perfectly normal thing to do. As far as SOW development goes, it`s still on, moving along, full steam ahead, all go no stop...what else is out there?

[Chivas]

Anyone who has read the posts in these forums know that SOW team has been working full time on SOW since they stopped all work on IL-2, about a year ago. Most of the negative posters want the game as much as the rest of us and are just crying vapourware to elicit a response. Its still a good idea for the community to respond to these posts as it will let new people know that the game is still in production.

Oleg has stated they are still working hard on SOW.
Luthier stated they have some their SOW addon crew helping Oleg finish SOW,
Both have excellent credentials

A few posters who have nothing to do with the development and never developed a flight sim state its vapourware.

Who would you believe?

[Feuerfalke]

Actually it even goes beyond that, Chivas, as it was confirmed on this forum, that Olegs team is working more than full time on the project, according to some statement apparently on saturdays, too.

But if I realized one thing on this board, it's to not give a damn about the whiners. None of them really believes the project is abandoned. They're all just trying to provoke a strom in the fishbowl to get an official statement.

It's whining on high levels, nothing more, nothing less.

If they'd really mean it, they'd just forget about checking in more and more and that's it.

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

Well, Oleg is not one of those people who will stop development without letting community know, be sure.

true, but admit, thers no such developer who cant find 5 mins to write ONE post about development in 2-3 months....and what about PR guy? 1C PR guy, is he there? he should find 5 mins to post something...theyr not serious if they dont have a PR guy...or whoever to post updates here...Oleg got us with IL2, yes....but we are "horny bride" and hes "lucky" that (for now) he dont have a real competition...

[Thunderbolt56]

1:C's PR has been non extant for the last year in general. BoB is still progressing. I'd tell you more, but then CrazyIvan's SMERSH goons would have me...er...brought in.

In the meantime, finish that last level of COD4, buy a PS3 (I just got one and am having a blast with the silly thing), go to the beach and look at scantily clad women and wait.

[crazyivan1970]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

true, but admit, thers no such developer who cant find 5 mins to write ONE post about development in 2-3 months....and what about PR guy? 1C PR guy, is he there? he should find 5 mins to post something...theyr not serious if they dont have a PR guy...or whoever to post updates here...Oleg got us with IL2, yes....but we are "horny bride" and hes "lucky" that (for now) he dont have a real competition...

Once again... what we had with IL2 was truly unique, but you are forgetting most important part, such dialog between developers and community is only possible with participation and blessing from the publishers. No developer under obligations of the contract will step forward and start advertising his product... I am afraid this is the one part that is missing.

Other thoughts...IL2 took 4 years to develop, before initial release, maybe more then that.... I think it started in 1997 and saw the day light in 2001. SOW is by far more complex and advanced in all areas, things that use to take couple of weeks, now take several months...You cannot really compare the two. Bottom line is, Nobody in the know (and i said that before) ever gave you any concrete ETA for SOW. There were speculations and some rather silly anouncements, but nothing more. Oleg did say that they are trying to meet some dates, but he never said that he will. And once again, let the console game go already, has nothing to do with Maddox. 1c licensed out IL2 engine and other team completed it, yea Oleg tried it, gave them his opinion and that`s that. Why you folks keep bringing that up? How many times it needs to be said...those are not SOW objects, it is not MG work... i mean, come on!!