Answers to Community Questions

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

I play almost exclusively off line and the game engine and the game features, or rather the lack there of, need a tremendous amount of work yet.

I agree. Unfortunately the recent Q&A from luthier seems to suggest that there is very low priority on that, and a sort of willful ignorance about what makes for a next gen single player experience.

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

I agree. Unfortunately the recent Q&A from luthier seems to suggest that there is very low priority on that, and a sort of willful ignorance about what makes for a next gen single player experience.

I get the sense that Clod was designed from the outset for on-line use. Relying on the good grace of the community members to provide the off line content.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

I get the sense that Clod was designed from the outset for on-line use. Relying on the good grace of the community members to provide the off line content.

The plan from the beginning of SOW, was that the community would be far more involved with this series than they were in the first. The development would make the necessary game engine with FMB, scripts, and Triggers, that would provide and excellent base for those with more knowledge on the subject of missions could add to the sim. This hasn't happened enough yet because the game was released unfinished, largely unplayable, and long before the tools were even close to being ready. I'm quite sure we have more people in the west interested in making missions for the Battle of Britain,etc while the developers have people with more expertise and passion for the history of the Eastern Front. People raved about the work of the modders in the original series, but they couldn't have done squat without the developers game engine. Modders don't have the time or money to build a game engine, we need people with the tenacity of an Oleg who didn't like what WW2 aircombat developers of his time were doing, and did something about it.

[planespotter]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The plan from the beginning of SOW, was that the community would be far more involved with this series than they were in the first. The development would make the necessary game engine with FMB, scripts, and Triggers, that would provide and excellent base for those with more knowledge on the subject of missions could add to the sim. This hasn't happened enough yet because the game was released unfinished, largely unplayable, and long before the tools were even close to being ready. I'm quite sure we have more people in the west interested in making missions for the Battle of Britain,etc while the developers have people with more expertise and passion for the history of the Eastern Front. People raved about the work of the modders in the original series, but they couldn't have done squat without the developers game engine. Modders don't have the time or money to build a game engine, we need people with the tenacity of an Oleg who didn't like what WW2 aircombat developers of his time were doing, and did something about it.

I can't remember did Oleg give the code over to the modders, or did they just crack it and after fighting a long while and banning anyone who even wrote the word 'mod' Oleg gave up trying to stop them? Maybe we need people with the tenacity of those original modders!

[JG26_EZ]

The biggest irritant, is the fact that alot of us wanted a "BOB" map and aircraft in IL2:FB. We were told that we'd never see it because of the new version of IL2, and the fact that it would be centered around BOB. So this was fine, and we waited...

Now, over 10 years later, we hear that Clod will have no more BOB content added, and that we're back off to Russia.

That, and the "ghost" trees, suck big time.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by JG26_EZ

The biggest irritant, is the fact that alot of us wanted a "BOB" map and aircraft in IL2:FB. We were told that we'd never see it because of the new version of IL2, and the fact that it would be centered around BOB. So this was fine, and we waited...

Now, over 10 years later, we hear that Clod will have no more BOB content added, and that we're back off to Russia.

That, and the "ghost" trees, suck big time.

You did get a BOB map in IL-2, built by the community. It is unfortunate that the COD was released unfinished and the development eventually had to move on to stay in business, but that certainly doesn't mean there will be no further content for the channel map.

The standalone COD is probably dead, but the channel map, content, features, and aircraft will improve continually over the life of the series. The devs and possibly third parties will be building aircraft for the Sequels that can be used historically on the Channel Map. The community will use the map SDK, supposedly being released with the Sequel to improve the channel map. The community will use the improved AI, AI Commands, FMB introduced in the Sequel to make much better missions and Campaigns for the Channel Map.

Not to mention computer improvements and sim optimizations that will allow far more aircraft in the air with decent frame rates. That said my current system allows enough aircraft in the air to simulate most possible BOB missions. The current missions and campaigns built by the developer had to be dumbed down for use on average computers, not to mention the poor state of the game engine when these missions were built a few years ago.

The ghost trees do suck big time, hopefully the devs will eventually be able to further mod the Speedtrees to accept a damage model with decent frame rates on their huge map. Or get rid of Speedtrees all together.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by planespotter

I can't remember did Oleg give the code over to the modders, or did they just crack it and after fighting a long while and banning anyone who even wrote the word 'mod' Oleg gave up trying to stop them? Maybe we need people with the tenacity of those original modders!

You know aswell as I do the devs never planned to have the original series open to modders, but that changed for the new series. I haven't seen any new game engines being built by the original modders, and you probably never will. Its funny you talk to modders and they have a healthy respect and appreciation for the work the developers have done, that made it possible for them to add to it and refine it.