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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-30-2012, 09:37 PM
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We can't find a free programmers with knowledge of aviation in the Russian labor market. This is a very big problem.
Also, we lost a lot of employees from the old team.
that explains it all to me. This seems to me the real reason why there are hundreds of new bugs reported with the new patch.But if the Devs can't cope with the programming stuff, which is understandable, they should be able to tell: "sorry, we can't fix it", and not let the community "hope for the best"
Anyway, thank you B6, this is for me the first realistic update since the sim was sold,proving the sim is realy almost ,imho, dead. Very pitty but thanks again
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
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I know it is frustrating for all of us including the developers, but as others have said this is a "BETA" . I you don't want to test it as such don't download and instal it. Black Six has already said to forum wait for the final release if you aren't happy. The main problem has been that the sim was released before it was really ready and there lies the start of all the complaints the developers are now getting. If we wish to see the final release of CoD in all it's glory we will all have to drink from the big bucket of patience.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:51 PM
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The root of the problem may indeed be the early release. But there are so many outright shitty products on the market that people bought and buy these days - and instead demanding fixes they just buy the next generation product.

Maybe it's just a general generation problem.
While young people can just get over it and continue the older ones have issues with that sometimes. There are so many real life examples... I seriously must wonder how some people can tackle their lifes without going mad if one (out of probably thousands) buggy game is such a big deal for them.



The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.

What the game currently needs is most likely comprehensive bug reports. Without serious and well sturctured bug reports it won't get better. Ever.

Personally I don't have enough time right now for serious bug testing so I'm very thankful to the people who do so and report their findings in a constructive manner! Thanks for that
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:05 AM
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The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.
Whoa! Madfish this is a lightning of pure genius!

Cheers!
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:46 PM
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hi Blacksix. was wondering about this for awhile now. WE have so many great modders in this community and people who also know how to do this kind of programing.Is it possible to release some of the workload to the community?I am sure the people who helped bring us these fantastic mods UP and HSFX can help ease the burden and get the game the way it "should" be?
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:56 PM
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hi Blacksix. was wondering about this for awhile now. WE have so many great modders in this community and people who also know how to do this kind of programing.Is it possible to release some of the workload to the community?I am sure the people who helped bring us these fantastic mods UP and HSFX can help ease the burden and get the game the way it "should" be?
Wow if only life were that simple, I could get somebody else who is enthusiastic and stupid to do my job for me and I stll pocket the cash.....sweet.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:18 PM
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Wow if only life were that simple, I could get somebody else who is enthusiastic and stupid to do my job for me and I stll pocket the cash.....sweet.

was just a suggestion no need to get your panties in a bunch.

enthusiasm what a word eh? where would this world be without it.Where exactly would we all be if there wasnt some poor guy with a brilliant mind who is enthusiastic and stupid enough to do it for free?Tell that to the guys who make the version of HSFX you are flying right now.And added all those nice new aircraft for your enjoyment,added all those new features so your 10 year old version of Il2 is still as fun as it was today as it was back then.

yep..if only life was so simple.my point is dont be so fast to jump down somebodies back for asking a question.And not everyone is in it for the money.there are a few who do things for just the pure enjoyment of it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:06 PM
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hi Blacksix. was wondering about this for awhile now. WE have so many great modders in this community and people who also know how to do this kind of programing.Is it possible to release some of the workload to the community?I am sure the people who helped bring us these fantastic mods UP and HSFX can help ease the burden and get the game the way it "should" be?
In the current state mods would obviously only hurt and add to the mess as they'd introduce their own bugs and uneccessary complications.
And anything else besides mods would cause legal issues and will understandably not happen, ever.

Nothing can be done right now aside from proper bug testing and sending in constructive reports, logs and suggestions. And giving them some time to work.
Not sure why this is such a big deal to so many. I think it's rather hilarious.

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Old 07-01-2012, 03:09 PM
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Yeah real hilarious took everybodys money and left them with a broken game with no clue as to when it will be fixed. Then throw out little beta patches that fix some things and break others. I mean its not like it just needs abit of polish here were talking major flaws like the flying though trees and buildings and the lack of flyables still allot of work.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:24 PM
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Yeah real hilarious took everybodys money and left them with a broken game with no clue as to when it will be fixed. Then throw out little beta patches that fix some things and break others. I mean its not like it just needs abit of polish here were talking major flaws like the flying though trees and buildings and the lack of flyables still allot of work.
Hahaha. You made my day. Seriously, it IS hilarious. Do you marry a girl on first sight? Why didn't you wait for reviews? They took no ones money. You GAVE it to them for the product.
I can understand the problem with the system requirements but aside from that you make no sense.

If you are an early adopter live with the damn consequences. Also try to go out and experience life. This game is still supported and does get patches - unlike a freaking ton of other broken useless games I own.

I also don't like the flying through trees thing. But whatever. No one promised we'd collide with them. Why don't you buy a DCS game and a microscope so you can even SPOT a damn tree. This game looks stunning and works okay overall. There's no better sim out there and if you want one just go and make one. I'll even buy it


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was just a suggestion no need to get your panties in a bunch.

enthusiasm what a word eh? where would this world be without it.Where exactly would we all be if there wasnt some poor guy with a brilliant mind who is enthusiastic and stupid enough to do it for free?Tell that to the guys who make the version of HSFX you are flying right now.And added all those nice new aircraft for your enjoyment,added all those new features so your 10 year old version of Il2 is still as fun as it was today as it was back then.

yep..if only life was so simple.my point is dont be so fast to jump down somebodies back for asking a question.And not everyone is in it for the money.there are a few who do things for just the pure enjoyment of it.
No one does anything for free. Even the HSFX people don't. They do it because THEY want a better game and not because WE want a better game. That's how economy started. People specialized because THEY wanted something but also didn't want to starve just because they were good smiths but sucked at farming. Please don't be so naive as to believe that people do stuff for free...

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