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Originally Posted by Pudfark

Uh...AOA's sig says that's the Beta Patch #

Poor pud.. Seems you and Tree have the same reading problems.. Read what BS wrote in his inital post again and I think you will see the word 'alpha' twice.. Note not talking about the 'title' of the thread, the 'content' of the thread

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Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The post was edited, end of.

To add links and updates..

But as many have tried to tell you here in this thread (maybe you should go back and read what they said a 2nd time?)

The description that I have in my link, that contains the qualifiers of 'alpha' in relation to the patch was there from the start and never changed

Nice try!

But no sale

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Originally Posted by Pudfark

Please refrain AoA...your "qualifiers" are adding to Tree's and my confusion.

Fixed that for ya

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[hiro]

its funny how some people say 'see you in ROF' not realizing the birthing process of ROF is similar to CLOD's. OR maYBe selective memory or something.

the OP's truth would be true IF if the devs stopped working on clod and said 'new sim working on are we . . .'

but we get updates and they are trying to fix it.


aND TO +1 on people saying its a alpha beta patch. just read B6's post.

nothing else needed. someone said there isn't a number, but B6 has it in the original post.

again, selective memory or selective reading.

lens post is not new. Its the "I am a IL-2 1946 fan, and oleg n devs had enough time to make CLOD, and the devs were supposed to fix the US release, and the fans were conned because its taking too long." type of post

And then upset of the moscow being the working game and CLOD should be it, whine.

that's the standard whine n cheese post, and i WAS surprised it was rehashed like a hollywood blockbuster.


But the truth is devs and B6 are telling us what is going on. WIP, patch not released. They are working on the game.

Also remember the magnitude of what was promised. It's huge. just the code that connects the weather / climate / air currents / propwash affecting your FM is huge. And that's not including the FM code specific to your ship or the code of the weather / propwash / air currents / other ac propwash etc which is probably just as big or probably bigger.

its alot to model and to put it into code . . . its going to take a long time.

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This thread,

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by hiro

Also remember the magnitude of what was promised. It's huge. just the code that connects the weather / climate / air currents / propwash affecting your FM is huge. And that's not including the FM code specific to your ship or the code of the weather / propwash / air currents / other ac propwash etc which is probably just as big or probably bigger.

its alot to model and to put it into code . . . its going to take a long time.

For me the game ran and specially looked a lot better last year than it does now. This is the problem. They chopped off everything that made this game look stunning and in the end I'm losing performance. How on earth do you explain that?

[Mysticpuma]

Although I do +1 Phil's post, I am not at the stage of throwing in the towel just yet.

I do feel aggrieved that so-long after it's initial release we are still at Alpha/Beta patch release to try and fix the release day issues.

It does also grate with me that while players have been waiting to get a stable version of the release day software, 1C proudly talk about/advertise the new software they want us to buy.

The sad thing is most of us are here because of the rose tinted glasses we have for IL2:1946, which is still going strong due to TD, but UP and HSFX Mods have made the online servers a niche place where on occasion, one Mod pack will work on one Server and so people can't be bothered to switch. The old-days where everyone could join any server as the patch numbers were the same has sadly long-gone!

So now the online WW2 playing community is looking for the next great thing and CloD promised/promises to be that.

It seems a lot of the crashes I read about are online though and once-more this means the online community is suffering.

I have posted before that loading up 1946 and taking a flight in a large battle at 10000m, with contrails all around, made me grin like a Cheshire Cat and I hope that one-day I'll fly a P-47 or Mustang in CloD on an escort mission.

My irritation at 1C is the prolonged wait to even get the initial release stable, when we already know it shouldn't have been launched.

If anyone remembers the original IL2, just look at how many missions and options and aircraft came with that. I mean 31 flyable aircraft and 40 non-flyable!

Compare that to CloD. Yes I realise that the detail is much greater but after the development time I would have hoped for a few more aircraft and one of them NOT a G.50!!! So many aircraft that took part in BoB and we get a G.50?

Anyway, as we have sat and waited for the next (if you build it they will come) patch hopes get raised that we can touch the nirvana of IL2 and then once more they are dashed on the concrete runway.

I honestly feel that once the launcher issues have been fixed.....that's it until the BoM. If they can stop the game CTD, then they will say "the players are satisfied and now we can let them have the features we promised in the original.....by paying for the sequel!"

Now hand on heart, I am stupid enough/brave enough to actually buy the sequel as I want to fly the best simulator out there. There isn't a sim (ww2 of-course) that can touch the level of detail. Honestly the first time I hit some Hydraulics on an enemy aircraft and the undercarriage started to lower....and then I burst the tyre, I realised that this was the detail I wanted.

The thing is, if they are spending most of their time creating the 'new' BoM and making sure it includes the dynamic weather, the fixes, the extras, the blah, blah, blah, well I don't think that there is any reason not to give it a 'punt'.

I am concious and aware though, that for me that will be last-chance saloon for 1C in my book. If it doesn't include those features, if it doesn't fix all that they promised, then that will be it. How can you trust a company that takes your money and doesn't provide what it said it will. I think too that there would be recourse as it would surely be a case of obtaining money by deception?

However, it's not done yet, the patch is not complete, the BoM is not complete........nothing is complete?

I will be greatly annoyed though if the main bug fix that really does fix everything, just happens to come along at the right time for it all to work nicely with the BoM update...that would be a stroke of sheer coincidence....surely?

However, for now I can play the waiting game. I have IL2, I am Beta testing War Thunder, I have other games i can play but I also have CloD, installed on my hard drive, waiting for the next patch and although the wait will hurt.....what else can i do? Moaning and winging about it wont make a patch come any quicker, it'll just make me frustrated for longer.

So, I'll wait for the patch and I will buy BoM but I think deep down that is because 1C have me on "The Hook"

http://fliiby.com/file/857807/9dcf8jxqdg.html

I will however be honest (why not) and say that tree and lensman do have my upmost support, because as much as I am a lover of the 1C creation, I do think there is so-much more that could have been done to stop so much animosity.

MP