BETA PATCH v1.06.17582 - May 05, 2012

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by XL5

Wow...Did you read the last 10 past friday's updates ? Did you ever read : we will finally put out an ALPHA patch that will need to be tested after we did the internal BETA testing for so long and hte glitches we talk to you about and were the reason for so many delays won't be fixed after all...?
ANd once again, remember that all this waiting and "few more weeks" before release was to put out a working patch, with fixed clouds, grass, particules fx and so on...
SO...Now it is suddenly became an incomplete ALPHA ?...Ok then...You are right...I misread and misunderstood all past Bsix updates..My bad...

See, that's the problem right here. There's too many people on this forum who take too many things for granted and think they are set in stone, to the point where adapting to reality is considered a terminal sin.

Nothing personal, but i've got a very honest question: if doing things one way presents problems, shouldn't something else be tried?

Because by your reasoning, it seems that you are implying something to the effect of "if you can't do it the way you initially said, then don't do it at all and let's keep the bugs". I'm not being ironic here, i'm genuinely curious about your reasoning.

It's like driving on the road and saying "i'll brake here, enter the turn this way, accelerate through the apex up to X km/h, then move on to the next corner, etc, etc".
It works more or less ok when on a race track but not for every day driving, where pedestrians or stray dogs appear in front of you. Then the plan goes out the window and you improvise.

So, my question is very simple: is our final goal to get the sim fixed, or to keep transcripts about who said what and how plans change during the course of patching so that we can argue among ourselves and pass the time? Do we want to fly the sim or the forums?

Personally, i want it fixed. Everything else is secondary to me. I don't care if B6 says the sun is a yellow square today and tomorrow he changes his mind and says it's round but black, as long as they keep experimenting to find the best possible solution to the bugs and making progress here and there i'm fine with it.

[jimmythedeath]

YES finally we get to test, OK i did end up with a crash, sent in the Dump file, ok my review much better experience the micro shutters when other players are flying around have gotten less, also over citys, its playable, went from the micro shutters and 5 fps to like no shutters but u can hear them if that makes sense just barely, and like 10 - 15 fps over citys and in engagements. the Performance i can see it i can feel it with my rig all i got to say. i would say it is a 50% increase in performance, the fps might be slow but its being fast in the things that count, the engine feels very responsive now to inputs but more experimenting is needed on my part.


Jimmy OUT !!!!

OH yea

amd 8 core
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8 gig ddr3 ram
Dual SSD 120 Sata 3 Raid 0 for OS drive.
Track IR
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24" IPS Dell Monitor

[strom32]

A lot of people fighting and complaining in this thread. Perhaps this will be justified after the next patch if those items mentioned are not fixed. After all B6 did mention that these would only take a few more days. Until then why waste your time if the time mentioned is only a few more days?

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by strom32

A lot of people fighting and complaining in this thread. Perhaps this will be justified after the next patch if those items mentioned are not fixed. After all B6 did mention that these would only take a few more days. Until then why waste your time if the time mentioned is only a few more days?

Even if they are eager to make it this quick usually it takes longer. There are almost 300 bugs listed on the bugtracker waiting to be fixed.

Originally Posted by jibo

keep in mind there is 22 persons working on cod/bom ... much less than on angry birds

[strom32]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Even if they are eager to make it this quick usually it takes longer. There are almost 300 bugs listed on the bugtracker waiting to be fixed.

I will play angry birds then.

[SEE]

The devs would be better off only allowing volunteers to access critical development patches and to give feedback with a proviso that the feedback is kept confidential.

I have been testing the patch and SP performance is very much improved regards FPS, stutters, etc. MP is causing frequent CTD problems for me but I continue to try and test and will then send my Log/crash files with as much supporting/relevant info as possible.

[cebit]

I heaven't been flying much MP due to some issues with my water setting after installing patch, and still i CTD'd after a few minutes flying SP. But only in those QMB where other planes where involved and around me.

Flying the crosscountry or any of the other free flight ones seemed to work nicely. Steady 60 FPS. The flow and feel of the game in general seemed much smoother wich was rather nice.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

See, that's the problem right here. There's too many people on this forum who take too many things for granted and think they are set in stone, to the point where adapting to reality is considered a terminal sin.

Nothing personal, but i've got a very honest question: if doing things one way presents problems, shouldn't something else be tried?

Because by your reasoning, it seems that you are implying something to the effect of "if you can't do it the way you initially said, then don't do it at all and let's keep the bugs". I'm not being ironic here, i'm genuinely curious about your reasoning.

It's like driving on the road and saying "i'll brake here, enter the turn this way, accelerate through the apex up to X km/h, then move on to the next corner, etc, etc".
It works more or less ok when on a race track but not for every day driving, where pedestrians or stray dogs appear in front of you. Then the plan goes out the window and you improvise.

So, my question is very simple: is our final goal to get the sim fixed, or to keep transcripts about who said what and how plans change during the course of patching so that we can argue among ourselves and pass the time? Do we want to fly the sim or the forums?

Personally, i want it fixed. Everything else is secondary to me. I don't care if B6 says the sun is a yellow square today and tomorrow he changes his mind and says it's round but black, as long as they keep experimenting to find the best possible solution to the bugs and making progress here and there i'm fine with it.

I am still waiting to buy the game. I've got all Il2 series and all...Almost bought COD one year ago...It will be fixed soon...Hum...Almost bought it a month ago...Will be fixed soon...Almost bought it a week ago...Few thing to fix yet...And now, the FAMOUS patch is an ALPHA without the fixed bugs that were responsable for the delayed release of the" patch"...
You guys have the game, paid for it and hope for the best. You have been in this situation for a looong time now. You have been the Beta testers. Now you are ALPHA testers. No working clouds. No dynamic weather, radio,Etc.
I am neither an fanboy nor a whiner. I dont play COD at all !!!
I am just trying to figure out if, and when it will be worth buying COD instead of the sequel. That is all.
And of course, if 1C wants to adopt new ways for resolving issues because the old aren't working, (the ways they were doing things for the past 12 months lets say), it is their prerogative indeed...But it is not a very encouraging sign in terms of developpement progress though...Otherwise, they would keep going on, no ?
I do hope for the best with COD, but I've been following progress for more than 6 years now...ANd it seems far from completion, and far far away from what it was " supposed" to be.
Patience my friend !

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by XL5

I am neither an fanboy nor a whiner. I dont play COD at all !!!
I am just trying to figure out if, and when it will be worth buying COD instead of the sequel. That is all.

Do not buy CloD till sequel is out. The CloD engine will be not good enough till then. ETA is 1 - 2 years probably.

This patch is not for you. It is only for those who want to alpha-test and send crash-dumps to 1C as stated in the patch notes. Thus, you have no reason to complain, flame or spam here.

If you think Activision or EA can do a better job please try to persuade them they can make a profitable WWII sim at all. Everyone will be glad if they make such commitment.