BoM should have playable demo

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Interesting. So, you trusted them enough to buy it sight unseen, but now you don't trust them to fix it?

That sums up my situation pretty well. We all came off 1946 with warm fuzzies because they handled that series quite well. A lot of us bought this game out of good will, knowing that it was in a bad state but also knowing that the developers needed money to keep going, and expecting that it would be fixed in a reasonable time frame. That good will is rapidly dwindling if not already completely exhausted.

1C owes us a working game, and the longer they take to deliver, the more irate and pessimistic people are going to become.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

1C owes us a working game, and the longer they take to deliver, the more irate and pessimistic people are going to become.

Apparently your definition of "good will" is significantly different from mine.

In any case, if they don't get CoD fixed it's not going to matter to them how irate you are. They will be unemployed and will have more important problems to deal with.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Apparently your definition of "good will" is significantly different from mine.

How do you figure?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

How do you figure?

You gave them $50+/- out of good will. If they don't fix the game they're going to lose their jobs. Do you think they're really going to care if you're irate at that point?

I also gave them $50. If they don't fix the game I'll keep playing RoF. I won't be irate.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

You gave them $50+/- out of good will. If they don't fix the game they're going to lose their jobs. Do you think they're really going to care if you're irate at that point?

I also gave them $50. If they don't fix the game I'll keep playing RoF. I won't be irate.

That sound? That was you missing the point of my post entirely.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

That sound? That was you missing the point of my post entirely.

OK, what was the point?

That they're screwed if they don't fix it? No kidding.

That you won't buy the next version even if they do fix it? Complete BS.

[RickRuski]

The demo I was refering to for BoM wasn't intended to merge with CoD but to run as a free download demo stand alone. The RoF sales system I agree has it's faults and the prices are coming down for the extras. When it was first released the download was approx $70-00nz (where I live) and that was for about 4 planes, now try $13-00nz for 7 planes. Every now and again they have specials at good prices. As someone on this forum has said they only fly certain aircraft, so at least RoF method lets you choose what aircraft you have. The graphics are good and there are no stutters. Sure it took them at least 12 months to get everything working, CoD has had over that now and progress for at least 50% of us has been almost nil. If it comes down to where the solution is to throw more money into you PC's and upgrade to the latest and best CPU's and GPU's with up to 8 core CPU and 3gb of V/Ram then that won't happen for a lot of us, we will shelve CoD and wait till it does come right (maybe at the end of the new series similar to 1946 where you can now by that for about $10-00, and that certainly won't help the team develop the series). There was talk about opening CoD up to 3rd party development, this might be the correct way to go now and get some fresh ideas as it seems like they are quickly getting to the bottom of the barrel.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

They will be unemployed and will have more important problems to deal with.

Oh my God such an tragedy.
In every other business on this planet people are fired for less than releasing a such a crap Game. So what?
They would really deserve it and i couldn't really care less about it!

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto

Oh my God such an tragedy.
In every other business on this planet people are fired for less than releasing a such a crap Game. So what?
They would really deserve it and i couldn't really care less about it!

And I'm sure they won't give a crap if you are angry about COD. Either they fix it and we're all happy, or they don't and they lose their jobs. The constant complaining from the likes of you will not change anything.

[hiro]

I'd agree with the OP, but the main issue with the game is the core of it needs to be fixed.

FM needs work, frame rate / crashing needs to be fixed, sounds, gunnery, some physics . . .

games that have kick arse demos (like COD) already have a working core code for the game . . .


If the core isn't working, the demo will have the same issues as the full release.


But if the core was working fine, it would be a great idea to have 1 fighter from each side, 1 bomber from each side, and showcasing ground attack, fighter, bomber vs fighter and fighter vs bomber etc as a demo.



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Also lots want ROF's pay per plane policy. IMO, thats just incomplete. ONe plane is fun, but releasing a whole theater with a several planes, vehicles, ground stuff, ships, maps . . . is better.

You get more to play with and it takes alot longer to really explore.

I'd rather have the devs use that style as they are used to it (from 1946) as opposed to ROF's style.

Both methods sell well, its like a 30 min TV shows that are great, and 2 hour epic movies. Its just the methods, story, plot, presentation, are vastly different if you are sipping 30 mins at a time vs gulping 2 hours at a time . . .

If devs took a ROF style, they'd have sit down and set il-2 releases like that . .. but its better for them to have less on their plate.

That said, besides Moscow sequel is going along with the 1946 formula anyways . . .