Ignore the "patch" thread

Ataros said:

>>It feels so good to blame and punish others for your own decisions like upgrading a PC, purchasing CloD or downloading spyware from internet. Blaming others implies that they are bad guys but I am a much better guy compared to them.<<

Yes, I can relate to this. We must guard against the insidious evil within ourselves, and be kind and considerate even when it i snot always easy.

>>This is why it feels so good. E.g. dictators like Stalin or Hitler usually blamed and executed their generals for their own mistakes.<<

A good and valid analogy. Couldn't have put it better myself.

>>It is much more painful to take responsibility for a mistake and admit to yourself: "I can not pay attention when needed. I can not control my anxiety. I can not clearly think when excited. I need someone else like forum members or admins to tell me what to do because I can not make responsible decisions myself. I am not a grown up man yet."<<

Absolutely.

>>No one can "get" you to purchase a game, upgrade a PC or download a file from internet. It is always you who make a bad decision unless you have a gun pointed at your head when you make it. Children do not make their own decisions of cause as adults make them for them. Then most of children grow up and learn to take responsibility. <<

Yes.

I sense a new solidarity in this forum, and that can only be a good thing for the future. Long may it continue.

[robtek]

@Ataros

Very well said!!!!

@Falstaff

I'm afraid about your change of coat, from evil critisizer to fanboi in just one post.
I hope you'll find a intermediate setting .

Robtek said:

>>I'm afraid about your change of coat, from evil critisizer to fanboi in just one post. I hope you'll find a intermediate setting <<

I dont think things could continue the way they were, on this forum or elsewhere. A more positive mindset is much needed.

Let us not lock the gate after the horse has bolted. It must keep its head above water and not be thrown out with either the baby or the bathwater. Then the horse can go the extra mile into clear blue water.

‘Fair dinkum’, as we say in Russia

Or in France…’Pork Salut’….

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Robtek said:

>>I'm afraid about your change of coat, from evil critisizer to fanboi in just one post. I hope you'll find a intermediate setting <<

I dont think things could continue the way they were, on this forum or elsewhere. A more positive mindset is much needed.

Let us not lock the gate after the horse has bolted. It must keep its head above water and not be thrown out with either the baby or the bathwater. Then the horse can go the extra mile into clear blue water.

‘Fair dinkum’, as we say in Russia

Or in France…’Pork Salut’….

LOL that's hilarious...........Muhaaaaahaaaaahaaaaaaa........ .

[Wolf_Rider]

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They knew what they were doing....

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Robtek said:

>>I'm afraid about your change of coat, from evil critisizer to fanboi in just one post. I hope you'll find a intermediate setting <<

I dont think things could continue the way they were, on this forum or elsewhere. A more positive mindset is much needed.

Let us not lock the gate after the horse has bolted. It must keep its head above water and not be thrown out with either the baby or the bathwater. Then the horse can go the extra mile into clear blue water.

‘Fair dinkum’, as we say in Russia

+1

[irR4tiOn4L]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

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They knew what they were doing....

Did you talk to them over PM?

Pray tell how you came to such a stunningly confident conclusion.

Or did you just call for blood on instinct and suspicion like is so often the case with the masses?

Originally Posted by ChocsAway

Fair enough, innocent until proved guilty and all that...but I have my doubts that these activities were done in all innocence,

So did I, but at least in Pencon's case he PM'd me in a confused manner after my accusatory comments in the patch thread he bumped and only after several PM's realised that he'd installed the wrong patch by mistake. That's a long way to carry through a deception! I'm satisfied it was a mistake, personally.

[ChocsAway]

Originally Posted by irR4tiOn4L

Did you talk to them over PM?

Pray tell how you came to such a stunningly confident conclusion.

Or did you just call for blood on instinct and suspicion like is so often the case with the masses?

Do you really think the fake B6 post was an accident?

[irR4tiOn4L]

Originally Posted by ChocsAway

Do you really think the fake B6 post was an accident?

If you mean this series of posts;

Originally Posted by pencon

1000% better for me. Nvidia gtx 570 in gateway 16 GB ram and intel i7 860 2.8gz . Everything maxed out except ssaa and vsync .Smooth and lag free even over the city houses etc . Glad I didn't buy ATI . lol. I do wish they'd get rid of the external hissing sound on the bf109 though , very annoying , sounds like flaps deploying continously .

Originally Posted by danjama

Is there something wrong with you?

Originally Posted by pencon

Why would you say that ? I understand the hissing is supposed to simulate the superchager but it doesn't sound right .It's the same sound in the old IL2 1946 when you deploy the flaps .

Originally Posted by irr4tion4l

Yeah, cute.

I'd say the ban hammer should be brought down. Hard.

Then again, initially no, but based on the PM's that were sent by pencon later, I am satisfied - or at least quite doubtful of guilt - that it was indeed an accident and that the user likely mistook that old patch as the much awaited patch.

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

you have your "personal opinion"... others have theirs.



I've been around forums of differing natures for quite a while now and have seen some really scary tricks and methodologies, as well as quite a few nice things

Again, long way to go for a deception to post PM's keeping it up.

As for your opinion - its the brashness with which you concluded it. Surely you have some doubts?

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by ChocsAway

Do you really think the fake B6 post was an accident?

It was a joke. Even if someone does not know how B6 name is spelled, the post count of 1 was clearly obviously screaming it was not a post by B6.

It was fun to read and very educational because it let people realise for a second how much they have to loose, how great CloD is. People usually do not appreciate something enough until they loose it. Cancellation of a project is everyday business reality and this may happen to CloD if we do not support it and the sequel enough. Many people present at the forums do not realise it. That is why that post was very useful.

After reading Oleg's comments about CloD release one of forum members PMed me that many people probably do not realise how lucky we are to have CloD released. It was almost a miracle it happened. Now I can say we do not realise how lucky we are to have CloD not closed down yet.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by irR4tiOn4L

I'm satisfied it was a mistake, personally.

you have your "personal opinion"... others have theirs.



I've been around forums of differing natures for quite a while now and have seen some really scary tricks and methodologies, as well as quite a few nice things