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[palker4]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

^ what he said.

Whatever I guess you are the expert. What idiot would used stressed skin construction on supersonic jet makes no sense.

[Krt_Bong]

Has anyone noted the position of the Throttle? seems like it's nearly 3/4 to Full.

[smurf-oly]

I didn't see this link posted anywhere in this thread.... many more photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/1146825...at=directlink#

[BadAim]

That's great, thanks for sharing. Too bad there is nothing in there to sqpecifically identify plane and pilot. I pray this treasure falls into the right hands.

[mazex]

Great images in that link... How about this:

Original image:


Edit to show the possible hints of HS-B


And a 260 sqadron desert P-40... Wrong type though (no Allison):


Speculation It definately is a B though... But we want the squadron letters and my HS feels more vague

He he, doing more web research, naturally someone did an IL2 skin for this AC:

http://asisbiz.com/il2/P-40-RAF-SAAF...0-Edwards.html

And someone restored it or painted another one


And it was scrapped in 1944 as I understand it More theories?

And in this thread at some forum more people speculate on HS-B (and the pilot "Stocky Edwards" is obviously still alive - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Francis_Edwards - someone got to ask him if he ditched a plane and forgot about it )

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?p=1882370

[Sternjaeger II]

well at least we know it's 100% a Hawk 87A-3!

Historians will have their good work to do, needless to say it would help to know the exact location!

*prepares lorry just in case...*

[taildraggernut]

I think mazex is prob right with the ID letters it really does look like HSB, theres a pic of a battery label with a date of 1941, could this be an HSB from before the referenced picture dated 1943?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

well at least we know it's 100% a Hawk 87A-3!

Historians will have their good work to do, needless to say it would help to know the exact location!

*prepares lorry just in case...*

And a Hawk 87A-3 fits the early "fat" roundels (Kittyhawk Mk IA - lost in 1942 maybe?)... Interesting when all will be sorted out

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by smurf-oly

I didn't see this link posted anywhere in this thread.... many more photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/1146825...at=directlink#

thanks for the extra link! A lot more pictures and interesting details coming up! Unfortunately they've already tampered enough with that poor relic, let's hope it finds a home soon before it gets vandalised for good..

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by palker4

Whatever I guess you are the expert. What idiot would used stressed skin construction on supersonic jet makes no sense.

I guess I am yes

Seriously, to be 100% accurate what we have on WW2 and modern fighters is a semi-monocoque construction, where the combination of stringers, bulkheads and stressed skin makes for the shape and robustness of the aircraft.
The reason is mainly because you save a lot of weight and material by doing things this way: whilst it's unthinkable to do a supersonic fuselage on a traditional Warren truss & canvas method, the use of an all metal structure needs to be thought after in a practical and weight saving manner.

There are interesting transitional hybrids, which were a good compromise between performance and structural ruggedness, such as the Hurricane and the S.79 Sparviero. They both sported a mixed solution of tubular frame covered with canvas/metal and semi-monocoque parts, like the semi-monocoque metal wing of the Hurri or the wooden box construction of the Sparviero's wing.

Some other designs weren't particularly happy, but proved to be very rugged, like the Vickers Wellington's geodetic structure.

Another fantastic example of non hortodox aeronautical engineering is the structure of the DeHavilland Mosquito, almost completely made of a wood sandwich which can be imagined as a sort of pre-historic carbon fibre.