To All You COOP LOVERS!!!

[ramstein]

I wish ATAG would not let the missions run into darkness, I fly often and when the sun starts getting low,, and I mean not setting yet, but the sky is drak and orange and you cannot see, it is time to start a new mission,,, please, don't let the mission run into draness, there are always a few people either who see in the dark who just want to keep flying..

I myself cannot, and hope that in the future mission and campaign designs, building missions, ATAG squad starts tryingot find a work around to the problem of missions going well into sunset...

please,,

Thanx for the fun and challenging missions and campaigns..

Ram..

[ATAG_Doc]

Thanks. Most of the things I read makes coop sound good. But that locking a globally used server and making exclusive for a 32 or so persons while they play an hour or two isn't happening. Everything else sounds great but not everyone is on the same page as step1 step2 step3 and your job is to cover them and so on. There will always be and will always have to be an outlet that at any time for anyone to join and do whatever they want. Not everyone that is into this as me or you and they can't follow directions as you can. You have all sorts of people that will join a server. You very well can't go tick tock the game is locked and you can't get in. But coops will exist but more on an everyone following a leaders instruction as they did in the real world.

[JG5_emil]

Doc

Did you fly IL2?

The lobby was always full of Dogfight servers, the coops never hurt them and they were always full of players. The COOP style game play we are missing right now prevents (or at least makes very difficult) the creation of the online wars, squad v squad competitions and the popular coops style missions like ground pounding.

Online wars were great fun and very competitive. You had the overall effects of winning and losing e.g. whether you were pushed back or were advancing on the map but also it affected supply and the types of aircraft your side would get. In addition to the teamwork side of things you had your personal score which was like a kill streak and you would start to take things very seriously when you had survived 30 or 40 missions without being killed or captured...this was even more valuable that the number of kills you might have had. In the online wars surviving was far much more important that shooting down the enemy which is more realistic in many peoples opinion.

There will always be a place for people who want to join for a quick hour and no waiting around but the absence of COOPs is killing off a very important part of the game and I am sure it is partly the reason people aren't migrating in larger numbers from IL2.

S!

[JG5_emil]

Oh and by the way it never locked a globally available sever from other people. You would host the game from either your PC or you would use a server PC.

This is yet another serious problem with CLOD that hosting games this way seems either very very difficult or not possible.

A 'server' wasn't a big deal in IL2 it would be you laptop or an old PC with a cheap graphics card not some super computer 1000's of $$ dedicated server.

I can't see why this shouldn't be possible again.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by JG5_emil

Oh and by the way it never locked a globally available sever from other people. You would host the game from either your PC or you would use a server PC.

This is yet another serious problem with CLOD that hosting games this way seems either very very difficult or not possible.

A 'server' wasn't a big deal in IL2 it would be you laptop or an old PC with a cheap graphics card not some super computer 1000's of $$ dedicated server.

I can't see why this shouldn't be possible again.

you can run a server from your house emil I just bought a second version of the game and made another steam account, I used a single core 2.4ghz with 2 gigs of ram you could get about 16 people on with a small mission running.

get your self a cheap Quad core and 4 gigs ram and run a RAM drive and you should be able to run 32 players with a decent size mission (provided you have the bandwidth)

S!

[JG5_emil]

That is something I will do when the fixes start rolling in.

I was replying to the "locking a globally used server" comment that hosting a coop isn't about using up a global dedicated server...it is/was just a 2nd computer like you describe.

If it made easy for us to host 8v8 or 16v16 IL2 style coops I have a spare PC sitting here now which I would use but from what I have read it just looks too difficult or even not possible.

Admittedly I haven't tried yet because of the other issues.

[JG5_emil]

Actually it seems from some of these comments that those against probably don't really understand what the COOP people are talking about, probably they didn't experience them in IL2. It is like they are worried that COOPs are going to take away access to the few dedicated servers that already exist.

If they fix the way COOPs work then this is absolutely not ever going to be the case because it will be you or I hosting the coops like the days of old.