No coop in this game?

[addman]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I bought this game a year ago now, but I haven't played it due to the state it was in. I have been looking forwards to the patch, but I noticed in one post someone said there was no online coop like in IL2. Please can someone tell me this is a joke and you can build your own missions and play with your friends online.

It's a joke, just take any single mission and put a spawn point on your airfield and set which planes you want to fly with your buddies, presto!

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by addman

It's a joke, just take any single mission and put a spawn point on your airfield and set which planes you want to fly with your buddies, presto!

thanks for all the replies, but can you also build your own missions this way and are they as easy to build like in IL2?

[JG26_EZ]

I've built alot of missions for IL2:46, and I've tinkered a bit with the IL2:COD FMB, and it looks like it operates the same way, but with many extra options.

Unfortunately, I haven't even attempted online yet with all unstability issues, so I can't tell you how it runs in ClOD first hand. That last link will tell you what is missing from what you are familiar with.

[addman]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

thanks for all the replies, but can you also build your own missions this way and are they as easy to build like in IL2?

Of course, like I said, just create an offline mission in the FMB where you let's say, intercept a bunch of bombers.

1. Remove your flight if you've created one.
2. Place an aircraft spawn point (in the objects menu) on your home airfield.
3. Set up the spawn point properties the way you like it, e.g how many planes allowed to spawn there, which types etc.
4. Create a server in the MP menu, load the mission and notify your buddies to hop in.

Originally Posted by addman

Of course, like I said, just create an offline mission in the FMB where you let's say, intercept a bunch of bombers.

1. Remove your flight if you've created one.
2. Place an aircraft spawn point (in the objects menu) on your home airfield.
3. Set up the spawn point properties the way you like it, e.g how many planes allowed to spawn there, which types etc.
4. Create a server in the MP menu, load the mission and notify your buddies to hop in.

There is no COOP mode for CLOD, so there will be no online wars etc, which sadly will lead to the series death if it is not resolved IMHO.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

There is no COOP mode for CLOD, so there will be no online wars etc, which sadly will lead to the series death if it is not resolved IMHO.

As much as it pains me to say so i'm in agreement with you tree on this one

[PotNoodles]

I'll never understand why developers shoot themselves in the foot. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken is all I'll say. I just expected this to be like IL2 as far as coop went and I feel they have really made a big mistake with this one. All I ever wanted out of the game was better graphics and damage models.. Can someone tell me if that is a lot to ask when you consider we have the hardware support such things?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I'll never understand why developers shoot themselves in the foot. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken is all I'll say. I just expected this to be like IL2 as far as coop went and I feel they have really made a big mistake with this one. All I ever wanted out of the game was better graphics and damage models.. Can someone tell me if that is a lot to ask when you consider we have the hardware support such things?

Don't worry there will be plenty of COOP type servers in time. The patch should make it possible for everyone to fly the sim on or offline. Once that happens people will start making COOP type missions, and eventually Online Wars. It took a few years before we had any ongoing online wars in the original series so it takes time. Some people can make them now, but there isn't enough documentation yet for everyone needs, and I assume some bugs. The FMB and mission building is basicly the same as the old version, but with alot more capability that still needs to get documented and sorted. There were no mistakes made, the sim was just released unfinished. Some would say that was the big mistake, but I think the alternative was a cancelled sim.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I'll never understand why developers shoot themselves in the foot. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken is all I'll say. I just expected this to be like IL2 as far as coop went and I feel they have really made a big mistake with this one. All I ever wanted out of the game was better graphics and damage models.. Can someone tell me if that is a lot to ask when you consider we have the hardware support such things?

I feel the same. I thought that with il-2 as basically a 10-year prototype/dry-run for how to build the ultimate flight-sim, COD would simply build on the many good features while adding exciting new elements.

Instead they seem to have felt the need to reinvent the wheel in a lot of cases. To be fair, a lot of the GUI issues seem to be down to it being a real rush-job, cobble something together quick, we've got to release a year early effort. Even they hate it - Luthier as good as said so.

The positive point is that the GUI is being redone for the sequel. So I think NOW is the time to really put the pressure on and make sure that the devs build in a suitable interface for co-op use.

[carguy_]

Ataros,
I can`t speak for everyone, but I`m fairly sure that Il2ers are able to accept something else than a classic IL2 style coop, as long as the end result is the same. And that is simple and fairly fast mission creation, mission scripting able to simulate dynamic fronts, mission-to-mission war-like event development and pilot career (ie. overall war stats, individual stats, squad stats, distinctions system). No super scripting required here, just simple fuel depot bombed - no fuel - tank immobile - tank unavailable for battle - battle lost - frontline moved east/west concept.

As much as I`d like to stand beside 1C on this one, there is simply no excuse not to provide this in a flight sim that is created for massive multiplayer from day one. It is that simple yet is so hard for 1C to accomplish.

I would say that CloD without COOP-like interface is like Mass Effect without single player campaign. The feature is expected, required, mandatory. The game evolves around it.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

There is no COOP mode for CLOD, so there will be no online wars etc, which sadly will lead to the series death if it is not resolved IMHO.

Well, not necessarily death but yes, people will lose interest eventually. Skirmishes are only a part of what went on in the old IL2 series. That is a fact and denying it only furthers the state of say "suspension" CloD is currently in.