.50 cal?

[Ctrl E]

wow -didn't mean to trigger such a discussion. gives us something to do i while we wait for SOW i guess.

i would have thought a single .50 cal round fired square into the 6 of an aircraft would punch through the pilot's seat (and chest) and smash half way through the engine block - thus killing the pilot and the engine. of course in real life the round would bounce around a bit and fly off at odd angles.

i still reckon the current .50 cal round is a bit weak.

this is getting a bit like an episode of CSI.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

wow -didn't mean to trigger such a discussion. gives us something to do i while we wait for SOW i guess.

i would have thought a single .50 cal round fired square into the 6 of an aircraft would punch through the pilot's seat (and chest) and smash half way through the engine block - thus killing the pilot and the engine. of course in real life the round would bounce around a bit and fly off at odd angles.

i still reckon the current .50 cal round is a bit weak.

this is getting a bit like an episode of CSI.

If you're new to the community then this is just another day, another .50cal thread

Lots of topics posted on it since we got the weapon in the first place. Between that and the German MG151/20 cannon. I used to think it weak and then I adjusted my convergence, thought about my shooting, and then I solved most of my problems. Rapid strikes in the same location will do it...cut apart near anything. It may be a tad bit weak but the debate on that will go on endlessly so I stopped worrying and made sure I was effective with it.

With a little practice its a fine weapon. You can go home with 3-5 fighter kills with it if you're good. Not easy to do that given what happens in combat but its possible.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Between that and the German MG151/20 cannon. I used to think it weak

...the MG151/20 weak>>>????

Don't think so, ever since Oleg adjusted the ammo load to include the maximum number of Minen shells after a storm of complaints from the Luftwaffe side, the MG151/20 is now the most powerful 20mm gun in the game, even though the experts rate the Hispano as being superior.

[Kira]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

...the MG151/20 weak>>>????

Don't think so, ever since Oleg adjusted the ammo load to include the maximum number of Minen shells after a storm of complaints from the Luftwaffe side, the MG151/20 is now the most powerful 20mm gun in the game, even though the experts rate the Hispano as being superior.

Sounds like you hold a bit of a grudge against blue.

[Kwiatek]

0,50 cal effectivness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVH8dI-ZTbA&fmt=18

[Baron]

Got fed up with the weak (relativly) armement of early jap planes the other week and just to prove a point i swiched sides and climbed into a F4F.

Got 6 Zero kills in one sortie, of wich 2 simply exploded, the rest lost theire wing/wings or started burning..and had ammo to spear at the end of the mission.


50 cals are just fine.


In the ETO its a bit harder, as it should be, but the 50`s are just fine

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Baron

Got fed up with the weak (relativly) armement of early jap planes the other week and just to prove a point i swiched sides and climbed into a F4F.

Got 6 Zero kills in one sortie, of wich 2 simply exploded, the rest lost theire wing/wings or started burning..and had ammo to spear at the end of the mission.


50 cals are just fine.


In the ETO its a bit harder, as it should be, but the 50`s are just fine

Using early Jap planes as an example is completely useless.

You can set them on fire with two LMG's. Anything can set them on fire.

The USN did a complete study of the .50 calibre versus the 20mm Hispano, which included all manner of damage tests.

Their conclusion: Three .50 cals do the equivalent of one 20mm in damage.

The question we have to ask, in the game, does an aircraft with six wingmount 50 cals, such as a Mustang D, do the same damage as an aircraft with two 20mm in the wings, such as a Spitfire. I know that most of the time, I don't bother firing the LMG's in the Spitfire wing, I save them for defence after I run out of 20mm's. And I find the Spitfire's guns far more effective than a Mustang D's.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

...the MG151/20 weak>>>????

Don't think so, ever since Oleg adjusted the ammo load to include the maximum number of Minen shells after a storm of complaints from the Luftwaffe side, the MG151/20 is now the most powerful 20mm gun in the game, even though the experts rate the Hispano as being superior.

I know...thats what I meant.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Ctrl E

wow -didn't mean to trigger such a discussion. gives us something to do i while we wait for SOW i guess.

i would have thought a single .50 cal round fired square into the 6 of an aircraft would punch through the pilot's seat (and chest) and smash half way through the engine block - thus killing the pilot and the engine. of course in real life the round would bounce around a bit and fly off at odd angles.

i still reckon the current .50 cal round is a bit weak.

this is getting a bit like an episode of CSI.

Yeah, the .50 is incredibly powerful for a machine gun round, but it's not that powerful, especially against large and heavily built aircraft. I've had skilled pilots dismantle my Zero in short order with no trouble, but they lack punch for larger and more heavily constructed planes. Nothing, but nothing can replace good gunnery.

[Jughead]

I've noticed the 50's on the bombers are quite a bit more powerful than than the ones on the fighters. I get hit with one bullet from a bomber and my plane is useless. Not the case at all when they come from fighters.