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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-24-2012, 07:33 PM
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If realism and historical accuracy is your goal then not at all. For starters who's fluid in tank tactics 1939-45 style? Hardly anyone. Would players stick to these tactics? Nope. Can historical strengths and weaknesses be depicted? Nope.

The thing is any kind of human involvement in the ground war will end in some kind of brawl, inevitable leading to a stalemate of some kind. Quite honestly I'd prefer more FMB control over the ground AI (like telling artillery which area to shell and when, telling tanks when to advance in which formation at what speed etc etc).
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:40 PM
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Adding more ways for people to be involved in Cod/BoM/IL2 battles is awesome.

How about if we try assuming that they'll get it right and wait to start complaining until they actually screw it up.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:42 PM
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If realism and historical accuracy is your goal then not at all. For starters who's fluid in tank tactics 1939-45 style? Hardly anyone. Would players stick to these tactics? Nope. Can historical strengths and weaknesses be depicted? Nope.

The thing is any kind of human involvement in the ground war will end in some kind of brawl, inevitable leading to a stalemate of some kind. Quite honestly I'd prefer more FMB control over the ground AI (like telling artillery which area to shell and when, telling tanks when to advance in which formation at what speed etc etc).

What's the difference? look how people fly...certainly tactics are ignored by most...hey Bub, fill the tank!...oh, and check the oil
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I still think the original title Storm Of War was more apt. This was never just a flight sim. I can't believe that anyone who has been here for any length of time, and has followed this thing since the beginning, would think anything different.
David, your post made me lol and is spot on.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:24 PM
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I think it's quite clear many people didn't pay attention to the updates at all. It's was fairly obvious more than 2 years ago about the vehicles, just not to the extent. And I'm sure they have many more surprises up their sleeves. Gotta love the ambition.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:43 PM
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I think it's quite clear many people didn't pay attention to the updates at all. It's was fairly obvious more than 2 years ago about the vehicles, just not to the extent. And I'm sure they have many more surprises up their sleeves. Gotta love the ambition.
Being one of those that did pay attention to the updates, I remember several things that were fairly obvious more than 2 years ago, and I still haven't seen some of them.

The weekly updates still seem to me to be bones thrown to the pack to keep them happy. Mind you, I like CoD as it is, and fly it 3-4 times a week. I just want weekly updates that talk about what is coming next month, not next year, or in the next sequel.

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Old 02-24-2012, 08:50 PM
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updates that talk about what is coming next month, not next year, or in the next sequel.
Lots of people will be complaining about the CoD dev team working on tanks. That is coming next month, next year, and with the next sequel. Then the people who complained about tanks will be complaining that their tanks aren't using the right fuel and don't have the right ammo loadout.

Consider yourself updated.
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Lots of people will be complaining about the CoD dev team working on tanks. That is coming next month, next year, and with the next sequel. Then the people who complained about tanks will be complaining that their tanks aren't using the right fuel and don't have the right ammo loadout.

Consider yourself updated.
But nothing specific about what everyone knows needs to get fixed? Damn.

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Being one of those that did pay attention to the updates, I remember several things that were fairly obvious more than 2 years ago, and I still haven't seen some of them.

The weekly updates still seem to me to be bones thrown to the pack to keep them happy. Mind you, I like CoD as it is, and fly it 3-4 times a week. I just want weekly updates that talk about what is coming next month, not next year, or in the next sequel.

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I don't believe you Can you name some please?

The majority of old updates I remember seeing were clearly labeled WIP or Alpha version. And the missing features not in IL2COD on release (for stuff they said would be included) was talked about in an update before the Eastern release of the game.

I don't ever remember something being promised ever, just that it's being worked on. So please hook me up with these "fairly obvious" things that weren't discussed in an update as WIP/Alpha. Links would be nice. I've thought I've seen every single update for this sim. Maybe not.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:27 AM
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If realism and historical accuracy is your goal then not at all. For starters who's fluid in tank tactics 1939-45 style? Hardly anyone. Would players stick to these tactics? Nope. Can historical strengths and weaknesses be depicted? Nope.

The thing is any kind of human involvement in the ground war will end in some kind of brawl, inevitable leading to a stalemate of some kind. Quite honestly I'd prefer more FMB control over the ground AI (like telling artillery which area to shell and when, telling tanks when to advance in which formation at what speed etc etc).

You just described the average DF server in CoD AND old IL2. And yes even the FR servers like Warbcloud and Zeke_vs_Wildcat etc.

Maby controlling AI forces on the ground will be possible to, who knows

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