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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games. |
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Graphics and realism are always important in a flight sim, but ultimately, which ever one you choose, it is a game and will be *played* like one by the majority of customers if it is successful. You have to be able to jump in a plane and fly to the fight and shoot the baddies in a *seemingly* realistic way while at the same time not having too big a learning curve. As a real world taildragging pilot I see CloD as being only somewhat closer to realistic flying than other games but it too falls short enough to prevent me from forgetting that its just a computer game. It will be interesting to see how World of Planes does in the market.
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Prop wash?
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collision model.
Landing gear/traction model. |
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Ground handling?
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Well I don't understand how they can have all those FPS killing hedges in their sim and still expect it to run on your average gamer's machine. That's craziness.
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One day you guys will tell me what you really like about the CEM in this half-sim... Take out the OVERHEAT label from IL2 and the management it's almost the same. Of course there is the oil radiator too... but the funny thing is that both the radiators do not work correcly IIRC so...
About WoPlanes: I really really really like the terrain and the haze effect... tracers and smoke are very good, the flames are similar to the IL2's one, and are not so different from CloD (I still remember when Oleg posted the first images of the flaming bomber) Regarding map size: it's really a problem??? I'm against very big maps if the target of the sim to fight: wider maps means lesser probability to find the enemy, above all with the horrible target visibility of CloD. Bigger is not better... I like the external models too, of course the cockpits of Clod are better but I don't care about that if I want to have a combat sim. What I'm saying is that I would prefer worser models/graphics but better playability/simulation. Then talking about DM and FM... maybe CloD's DMs are more detailed but there is not guarantee that they are correct, above all then FMs are totally broken since the release. I would easily take a great combat simulator with 2003 graphics over a broken simulator with beautiful graphics...
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![]() A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria. |
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Now please tell me how do you think to defend the entire 1:1 seabord of England with 20 planes... above all without a radar system (Maraz did a great mod for the IL2 SEOW campaigns). Bigger maps allow you to bomb London with Brest-Plymouth-Bristol London as ordered wayponts because all the fighters are over the Dover.. is that realistic? Have you fun in that? Look, some months ago we were to fly on Falcon BMS for a combat mission and a new guy was talking about he had 200 hours on the F-16; at last we realized that he didn't know a $hit since he was used to fly relocation missions and have real pleasure in doing that... not a surprise knowing he's a FS guy. It's the same problem of the ARMA series... you can enter in enemy territory anywhere expect in front of the objective, and then you take the defenders for behind, because the maps are big. If you want a combat simulator you need to put the guys in the same limited airspace... otherwise yours will be a solo indisturbed mission.
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Strange logic Manu. I'd go for the nerdy looking girl who just needs to unravel her hair, add a little makeup and take off the glasses over the rough old slapper any day mate.
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