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Old 02-14-2012, 02:31 PM
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Kudos on your post, Talisman.

The objective is to have performance modelled accurately in ALL aircraft - Allies and Axis, fighters and bombers. Hopefully this thread can stay the course.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:39 PM
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Just wait till the FM is addressed with one of the upcoming patches. Spit I doesn't match the performance of 87 octane nor of 100 octane so there is no way to determine what fuel so supposed to be modeled.

Until then just fly Spit IA vs. Bf 109, both don't match the historical performance but against each other they are a good match for entertaining dogfights.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:45 PM
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Just wait till the FM is addressed with one of the upcoming patches. Spit I doesn't match the performance of 87 octane nor of 100 octane so there is no way to determine what fuel so supposed to be modeled..
Precisely my point.

But this thread was started after the release of v1.05.15950, and I hope that what's happening in picture number one didn't cease until they got it right.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27926
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:06 PM
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Precisely my point.

But this thread was started after the release of v1.05.15950, and I hope that what's happening in picture number one didn't cease until they got it right.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=27926
I'm under the impression that there was a "rush job" done on all the fighters (RAF and LW) re flight modelling. The Spitfire in particular seemed to have been pushed out the door too quickly. Aside from the hugely flawed flight model, other glaring indicators of hasty work are:

1) incorrect external sound. Spits & Hurries sound like diesel semi trucks. The 109's also sounded lame until corrected in later patch.
2) Spitfire mixture control animation reversed. Causes many an unnecessary blown Merlin to the unwary Hurricane pilot transitioning over to Spits.
3) Spit trim control animations (both rudder and elevator) non-functioning; although fortunately the actual trimming can be done by keyboard command.

The devil is in the detail, as they say, and it's significant that the three above dysfunctional features have not been corrected after 9 months of a series of patches. These would be simple fixes, I'm not confident that more complex flight modelling adjustments will be made in the much-anticipated upcoming patch.

I'm hoping threads such as this will be given enough serious consideration by the devs that these flaws will indeed be addressed in a straightforward, non-obfuscating, manner.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:18 PM
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I know Snapper mate, I know!

My point is that whatever work resulted from them 'poring over Spit perf data' as in the link, hasn't been released yet. Nothing's been released since v1.05.15950.

Let's hope 'The Patch' sorts all this stuff out.

If it doesn't, well there'll be a bit of a 'stuffstorm'!

Unfortunately, this thread's already been 'pilot's lounged' so not likely the devs will look either!
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:29 PM
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Good thread Talisman its about time we got the mk ia fixed. I do appreciate that the 109 is under powered when it comes to top speed as i do like to fly them now and again but a hurricane faster than a spit is just not on.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:47 PM
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Just wait till the FM is addressed with one of the upcoming patches. Spit I doesn't match the performance of 87 octane nor of 100 octane so there is no way to determine what fuel so supposed to be modeled.

Until then just fly Spit IA vs. Bf 109, both don't match the historical performance but against each other they are a good match for entertaining dogfights.
If 1C couldn't make accurate and realistic performance of well known BoB fighters i dont want to know what they could do with russian planes performance in BOM

Il2 deja vu?
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